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Tesla Full-Self Driving Veers Off Road, Hits Tree, and Flips Car for No Obvious Reason (No Serious Injuries, but Scary)

Tesla Full-Self Driving Veers Off Road, Hits Tree, and Flips... #tesla #autonomy #fsd #selfdriving #avs

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Video: Tesla Full-Self Driving Veers Off Road, Hits Tree, and Flips Car for No Obvious Reason (No Serious Injuries, but Scary)

A 2025 Tesla Model 3 drives off of a rural road, clips a tree, loses a tire, flips over, and comes to rest on its roof. Luckily, the driver is alive and well, able to post about it on social media. The problem? The car was driving itself in Full Self-Driving. The subtitle from the

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May 23, 2025 at 12:02amWeb
Show threadyoshisaurMay 23, 2025
Yikes. Glad they’re ok
Show threadKayLeadfootMay 23, 2025
Ditto! They were about 1 foot from hitting the tree head on rather than glancing off, could have easily been fatal. Weirdly small axises of random chance that the world spins on
Show threadCorkyskogMay 23, 2025
I still don’t understand what made it happen. I kept watching shadows and expecting it to happen earlier.
Show threadIllNessMay 23, 2025
I thought it might be following the tire tracks but no. It just decided to veer completely off.
Show threadPhenMay 23, 2025
There’s some difference in the fences on the left side at the exact time the car passed by on the other lane. My guess is that the timing of the other car made the software interpret those changes in the input as something moving instead of simply something being different.
Show threadEcho DotMay 23, 2025
They seriously need to pull FSD if it were just a matter of people risking their own lives I wouldn’t mind but they’re risking everyone else’s by driving this glitch machine around.
Show threadGotenMay 23, 2025
self driving is the future, but im glad im not a beta tester.
Show threadKayLeadfootMay 23, 2025
You're probably right about the future, but like damn, I wish they would slow their roll and use LiDAR
Show threadFaceDeerMay 23, 2025

Elon Musk decided they absolutely would not use lidar, years ago when lidar was expensive enough that a decision like that made economic sense to at least try making work. Nowadays lidar is a lot cheaper but for whatever reason Musk has drawn a line in the sand and refuses to back down on it.

Unlike many people online these days I don't believe that Musk is some kind of sheer-luck bought-his-way-into-success grifter, he has been genuinely involved in many of the decisions that made his companies grow. But this is one of the downsides of that (Cybertruck is another). He's forced through ideas that turned out to be amazing, but he's also forced through ideas that sucked. He seems to be increasingly having trouble distinguishing them.

Show threadtylerMay 23, 2025
They removed their lidar sensors after the prices had already come down.
Show threadLadyAutumnMay 23, 2025

He really hasn’t. He purchased companies that were already sitting on profitable ideas. He is not an engineer. He is not a scientist. He has no training in any design discipline. He takes credit for the ideas of people he pays. He takes credit for the previous achievements of companies he’s purchased.

What is it going to fucking take for people to finally actually see the grifter for what he is? He’s never had a single good fucking r&d idea in his life 🙃 he has wasted billions of dollars researching and developing absolutely useless ideas that have benefited literally no one and have not made him any money. It is absolutely incredible how powerful his mythos is, that people still believe him to be or have been some kind of engineer or something. He’s a fucking racist nepo baby. He’s never done a single useful thing in his life. He wasn’t the sole individual involved in creating PayPal (and was entirely unrelated in turning it into the successful business it became), he didnt found tesla nor is he responsible for any of the technological developments it made (except for forcing his shitty charger design that notoriously breaks down and charges at half the speed that competitors do), he did not found SpaceX and by all metrics involved has been loathed by everyone at the company for the past decade for continuously committing workers rights violations and fostering a racist sexist and ableist work environment. The man has done nothing but waste people’s time stoking his ego and sexually abusing a slew of employees for the past 2 and a half decades.

Show threadEcho DotMay 23, 2025

He’s forced through ideas that turned out to be amazing, but he’s also forced through ideas that sucked.

He’s utterly incapable of admitting that one of his ideas is garbage.

There is a reason he fawns all over Trump and that’s because both of them are of a type. Both of them have egos large enough to have their own gravitational fields but lack any real talent. Look his family up, they’re all like that.

Show threadBuffaloxMay 23, 2025

Musk has drawn a line in the sand and refuses to back down on it.

From what I heard the upcoming Tesla robotaxi test cars based on model Y are supposed to have LIDAR. But it’s ONLY the robotaxi version that has it.

He seems to be increasingly having trouble distinguishing them.

Absolutely, seems to me he has been delusional for years, and it’s getting worse.

Show threadmadcaesarMay 24, 2025
Self driving via cameras IS NOT THE FUTURE!! Cameras are basically slightly better human eyes and human eyes suck ass.
Show threadGotenMay 24, 2025
i agree
Show threadpostnataldripMay 23, 2025
“It crashed!” “Yes but it did it all by itself!”
Show threadkambushaMay 23, 2025
Except for the last 0.05 seconds before the crash where the human was put in control. Therefore, the human caused the crash.
Show threadRandomStickmanMay 23, 2025
Anything outside of a freshly painted and paved LA roads at high noon while it's sunny isn't ready for self drivings it seems
Show threadBonesince1997May 23, 2025
Or silly tunnels you can’t get out of.
Show threadZwuzelmausMay 23, 2025

Tunnels are extra dangerous. Not because of the likelihood of an accident, but because of the situation if an accident happens. It blocks the tunnels easily, fills it with smoke, and kills hundreds.

Except newly built tunnels in rich countries.

Show threadSpaceNoodleMay 23, 2025
Actual self-driving vehicles, sure. Just not whatever the fuck Tesla is doing.
Show threadKusimulkkuMay 23, 2025

I’m not sure about even the more advanced self-driving cars. Shit gets fucked with snow and all kinds of other stuff.

Flummoxes many human drivers too tbh.

Show threadSpaceNoodleMay 23, 2025
I’m confident that they all still need lots of work for advanced weather, but you’re not seeing a Waymo or a Zoox drive into a tree for no reason.
Show threadharrys_balzacMay 23, 2025
Full Self-Destruct
Show threadorcaMay 23, 2025
The worst part is that this problem has already been solved by using LIDAR. Vegas had fully self-driving cars that I saw perform flawlessly, because they were manufactured by a company that doesn’t skimp on tech and rip people off.
Show threadTexas_HangoverMay 23, 2025
Are those the ones that you can completely immobilize with a traffic cone?
Show threadSoftestSapphicMay 23, 2025
Yes lol
Show threadKayLeadfootMay 23, 2025

Probably Zoox, but conceptually similar, LiDAR backed.

You can immobilize them by setting anything large on them. Your purse, a traffic cone, a person :)

Probably makes sense to be a little cautious with the gas pedal when there is an anything on top the vehicle.

Show threadSynopsisTantilizeMay 23, 2025
That and if you just put your toddler on the roof of the car or something or trunk for a quick second to grab something from your pocket…VROooOMMM baby gone.
Show threadjamesjamsMay 26, 2025
Do I need to pay extra for that feature?
Show threadSynopsisTantilizeMay 26, 2025
Nope! That one’s free.
Show threadChocobofangirlMay 23, 2025
You say that like it’s a bad thing lol if it kept going, that cone would fly off and hit somebody.
Show threadayyyMay 23, 2025
The same is true when you put a cone in front of a human driver’s vision. I don’t understand why “haha I blocked the vision of a driver and they stopped driving” is a gotcha.
Show threadTheGrandNagusMay 24, 2025

A human also (hopefully anyway) wouldn’t drive if you put a cone over their head.

Like yeah, if you purposely block the car’s vision, it should refuse to drive.

Show threadNotMyOldRedditNameMay 23, 2025

I wouldn’t really called it a solved problem when waymo with lidar is crashing into physical objects

www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/…/ar-AA1EMVTF

NHTSA stated that the crashes “involved collisions with clearly visible objects that a competent driver would be expected to avoid.” The agency is continuing its investigation.

It’d probably be better to say that Lidar is the path to solving these problems. But not solved.

MSN

Show threadM137May 24, 2025
call*
Show threadFreedomAdvocateMay 24, 2025
Lidar doesn’t completely solve the issue lol. Lidar can’t see line markings, speed signs, pedestrian crossings, etc. Cars equipped with lidar crash into things too.
Show threadorcaMay 24, 2025
I oversold it in my original comment, but it still performs better than using regular cameras like Tesla did. It performs better in weather and other scenarios than standard cameras. Elon is dumb though and doesn’t think LiDAR is needed for self-driving.
Show threadFreedomAdvocateMay 24, 2025
Let me guess……you watched mark rober’s video? Lol
Show threadorcaMay 24, 2025
I’ve watched a few random ones over the years. No idea who he is.
Show threadotacon239May 23, 2025
I fear the day I’m on the receiving end of a “glitch.” It’s ridiculous that anyone can think these are safe after how many of these videos I’ve seen.
Show threadBeej JorgensenMay 23, 2025
As a motorcyclist… Yeah.
Show threadxenomorMay 23, 2025
There’s an obvious reason. It’s a fucking Tesla.
Show threadLadyAutumnMay 23, 2025
I am never getting into a self driving car. I don’t understand why we are investing money into this technology when people can already drive cars on their own, and we should be moving towards robust public transportation systems anyway. A waste of time and resources to… what exactly? Stare at your phone for a few extra minutes a day? Work from home and every city having robust electric transit systems is what the future is supposed to be.
Show threadunderline960May 23, 2025

Back when I still believed, I was excited because I wanted get in my car and take a 90-minute nap until I arrived at work.

With public transportation, you can only be half-asleep or you’ll miss your stop.

Show threadBeej JorgensenMay 23, 2025

I used to dream of watching a movie then falling asleep in bed while my car drove the 8 hours to my folks’ house.

But I’d want that beast to be bristling with sensors of every kind. None of this “cameras only” idiocy.

Someday. Maybe.

Show threadcestvraiMay 23, 2025

I have a 45 minute high speed train commute to a busy end-of-line station. I can sleep, read, work, or just stare out the window and think.

Same commute is probably twice as long by car during rush hour.

Show threadEcho DotMay 23, 2025
I wish I lived in a place that took rail infrastructure seriously. But all our trains appear to be built out of sheet iron and about four nails, old movement is accompanied with eeeeeeeeeccccchhhhhhhheeeeeekkkkkkkscccreeeeeeeekkkkeeeeek
Show thread0485May 23, 2025
Thing is that we have data to prove and back that slef driving cars end up having far less accidents than non self driving cars. Yes, these types of accidents are quite strange and should not happen and I get that they deter people from self driving cars, but we have to remember that there are millions of cars on the road daily and far more accidents happen thanks to the human factor. Just because a plane happens to crash when on autopilot we don’t stop investing into aircraft technology and people don’t stop tavelling by plane.
Show threadslaneesh_is_rightMay 23, 2025
I’m not a fan of self driving cars, but saying that people are able to drive cars is a stretch.
Show threadLadyAutumnMay 23, 2025
In general I am opposed to machines being in direct control of weapons. I am also definitely of the opinion that there are lots of people who shouldn’t be driving.
Show threadFreedomAdvocateMay 24, 2025
People crash cars far, far, far more than Tesla FSD crashes “per capita”. People are terrible drivers on average.
Show threadvenusaurMay 23, 2025
It was in trick mode
Show threadvenusaurMay 23, 2025
It was in stunt mode
Show threadSkyrmirMay 23, 2025
I use autopilot all the time on my boat. No way in hell I’d trust it in a car. They all occasionally get suicidal. Mine likes to lull you into a sense of false security, then take a sharp turn into a channel marker or cargo ship at the last second.
Show threadEcho DotMay 23, 2025
Isn’t there a plane whose autopilot famously keeps trying to crash into the ground. The general advice is to just not let it do that, well it looks like it’s about to crash into the ground, pull up instead.
Show threadkameecodingMay 23, 2025
The Being 787 Max did that when the sensor got faulty and there was no redundancy for the sensor’s because that was in an optional addon package
Show threadmbtrhcsMay 23, 2025
Even worse, the pilots and the airlines didn’t even know the sensor or associated software control existed.
Show threadSkyrmirMay 23, 2025
Pretty sure that’s the Boeing 777 and they discovered that after a crash off Brazil.
Show threadGamingChairModelMay 23, 2025

All the other answers here are wrong. It was the Boeing 737-Max.

They fit bigger, more fuel efficient engines on it that changed the flight characteristics, compared to previous 737s. And so rather than have pilots recertify on this as a new model (lots of flight hours, can’t switch back), they designed software to basically make the aircraft seem to behave like the old model.

And so a bug in the cheaper version of the software, combined with a faulty sensor, would cause the software to take over and try to override the pilots and dive downward instead of pulling up. Two crashes happened within 5 months, to aircraft that were pretty much brand new.

It was grounded for a while as Boeing fixed the software and hardware issues, and, more importantly, updated all the training and reference materials for pilots so that they were aware of this basically secret setting that could kill everyone.