I didn't understand the concept of the "dark ages." How can information and knowledge just disappear?

This is doubly so considering my ancestors have a proud history of 5000+ years of continuously recorded history.

I am starting to understand now.

It's actually not that hard to make information disappear. You can lose a lot of wisdom and institutional knowledge in one go. You can set your society back really fast to believing in rain gods over weather radars.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/08/climate/noaa-ends-disaster-database

Trump admin ends extreme weather database that has tracked cost of disasters since 1980

Its discontinuation is another Trump-administration blow to the public’s view into how fossil fuel pollution is changing the world around them and making extreme weather more costly.

CNN

@chu we've also seen plenty of lost knowledge happen even in our own lifetime, not through any insidious effort to bury it but because moving away from certain technologies has been viewed as progress.

The very large steam engines and hydraulic press cylinders built seventy and eighty years ago are effectively "the lost technology of the ancients."

We know how they work, of course, but can never build any more. The considerable expertise required in order to fabricate castings three and four *stories* high is effectively lost. The people who did that work learned through apprenticeship and experience, and for the most part those tradespeople have retired and passed away without passing on the specific knowledge of how to conduct operations at those scales.

This is, by the way, one of the reasons that the US is able to build and successfully fly very very large rockets: the forgings for those rockets are size-limited by the size of the still-operating Heavy Presses (80000 tonne) - which as mentioned are not possible to reproduce without rediscovering an entire industry of heavy foundry work and logistics.

China has made significant strides in this direction, as has India, and Pakistan has been trying as well. But again, this is not a continuity of knowledge, rather it is an entirely new rediscovery, ab initio.

@chu all of which is beside your point, and I apologize for butting-in with a post about my favorite weird recently-lost technology.

@stripey

That's the beauty of Mastodon. I love how random and knowledgeable people can be

@chu one of the Heavy Presses is fairly close by my home, here, and every so often I send an email trying to arrange a chance to see it. Unfortunately it's such a dangerous shop, and the work tends to be highly secretive (not the press itself but the parts being forged) and so I've never been able to tour the facility.
Someday, maybe.