commasnowden on "nothing to hide, nothing to fear"
mystic-macaroniWhat did she say after Snowden dropped that bomb?
BRINGit34Nah the NSA are nazis
DessalinesSnowden is a brave guy in some ways, but even in spite of his leaks, he’s remained a naive US-supremacist libertarian, who evangangelizes tech over political action, defends the OTF, silicon valley, and US-DoD funded crypto tools and privacy apps.
The lesson of 2013 is not that the NSA is evil. It’s that the path is dangerous. The network path is something that we need to help users get across safely. Our job as technologists, our job as engineers, our job as anybody who cares about the internet in any way, who has any kind of personal or commercial involvement is literally to armor the user, to protect the user and to make it that they can get from one end of the path to the other safely without interference,” he told an auditorium filled with the world’s foremost computer and network engineers at a 2015 meeting of the Internet Engineering Task Force in Prague. He reaffirmed his view a year later at Fusion’s 2016 Real Future Fair in Oakland, California. “If you want to build a better future, you’re going to have to do it yourself. Politics will take us only so far and if history is any guide, they are the least reliable means of achieving the effective change.… They’re not gonna jump up and protect your rights,” he said. “Technology works differently than law. Technology knows no jurisdiction.”
SoyViking [he/him]Goebbels certainly didn’t believe in the right to privacy but there is nothing connecting him to the “if you have nothing to hide…” quote. He certainly wasn’t the first to come up with it, as it can be found in a 1917 piece by Upton Sinclair.
It seems like Goebbels’ connection to the quote is one of these “it feels so true that it has to be true” misattributions that floats around on the internet and in popular culture.
And by the way, the NSA are Nazis, they are bad people doing bad things for evil reasons.
Snowden doesn’t even think the NSA is evil:
The lesson of 2013 is not that the NSA is evil. It’s that the path is dangerous. The network path is something that we need to help users get across safely. Our job as technologists, our job as engineers, our job as anybody who cares about the internet in any way, who has any kind of personal or commercial involvement is literally to armor the user, to protect the user and to make it that they can get from one end of the path to the other safely without interference,” he told an auditorium filled with the world’s foremost computer and network engineers at a 2015 meeting of the Internet Engineering Task Force in Prague.
He reaffirmed his view a year later at Fusion’s 2016 Real Future Fair in Oakland, California. “If you want to build a better future, you’re going to have to do it yourself. Politics will take us only so far and if history is any guide, they are the least reliable means of achieving the effective change.… They’re not gonna jump up and protect your rights,” he said. “Technology works differently than law. Technology knows no jurisdiction.”
☂️-ok ill be the one to say it then: the NSA are fascists. the NSA is evil.
小莱卡Lol i really cringed at that phrasing about “good people doing bad things”. Theyre literally fascists doing fascism to advance their interests, it really doesn’t matter if they are vegan and have dogs.
NiquarlJe was a contractor for the NSA, sis you think he was going to say anything different?
We desperately need a constitutional right to privacy, but I doubt that will happen in my or our country’s lifetime.
Which country? Plenty of countries have at least a nominal right to privacy, but it doesn’t end up meaning much when US companies own your country’s communications platforms.
I’ll let you guess, although you probably only need one guess.
The fediverse condemns free speech. The fediverse bans unapproved opinions and wrong think, proving that the fediverse is an enemy to the principals of Edward Snowden. But it’s fun to be on here one in awhile knowing fhe right thing to say that forces people to come undone and expose their true personality. When you through a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that helps is the one you hit, so it makes for a fun time to say the right thing for setting off everybody and watxh in the insults come in, it means that I hit my mark
If you don’t like the way communities are being moderated, maybe you should find/start a server that more aligns with your values.
The fediverse imposes censorship through de-federation, as opposed to being decentralized that only requires protocol configuration with any software designed to communicate through said protocols. Fediverse requires approval before accepting messages from other servers
Wait, so people can choose whether or not they’re subjected to hate speech? What tyranny!
What is cinsidered hate speech and what is not considered hate speech for pointing out fallacies in people’s statements, questioning someone’s pathology, or showing someone’s deceptive framing?
OtterThe idea is that people can block what they don’t want to see. Some users/communities/instances are more open, and others are more closed off. There’s nothing stopping you from finding a place that aligns with what you want
If someone doesn’t want to interact with you, you’re not going to accomplish anything by forcing them to interact with you.
He misattributes that quote
You will find the quote in this book that predates Nazi Germany
Not merely was my own mail opened, but the mail of all my relatives and friends—people residing in places as far apart as California and Florida. I recall the bland smile of a government official to whom I complained about this matter: “If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.”
RedSnt ♾️🦋♂️👓🖥️So the quote was about the American secret service?
Mysturji@comma_egomaniac
Yes, but…
If Snowdon wasn’t a fucking idiot, he wouldn’t be stuck in Russia now.
I mean, if you’re going to expose the US government for being a bunch of lying hypocritical fascist twunts, don’t do it in Hong Kong. Think ahead.
Yes, but…
If Snowdon wasn’t a fucking idiot, he wouldn’t be stuck in Russia now.
I mean, if you’re going to expose the US government for being a bunch of lying hypocritical fascist twunts, don’t do it in Hong Kong. Think ahead.
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