silence7‘The Worst Internet-Research Ethics Violation I Have Ever Seen’ | The most persuasive “people” on a popular subreddit turned out to be a front for a secret AI experiment.
Field experiment.
There’s no guarantee anyone on there (or here) is a real person or genuine. I’ll bet this experiment has been conducted a dozen times or more but without the reveal at the end.
cyranoWith this picture, does that make you Cyrano de Purrgerac?
FriendBesto
RustyShacklefordI’ve worked in quite a few DARPA projects and I can almost 100% guarantee you are correct.
ForesterSome of us have known the internet has been dead since 2014
Hello, this is John Cleese. If you doubt that this is the real John Cleese, here is my mother to confirm that I am, in fact, me. Mother! Am I me?
Oh yes!
There you have it. I am me.
'E’s not John Cleese! 'E’s a very naughty boy.
Now look here! I was invited to speak with the very real, very human patrons of this fine establishment, and I’ll not have you undermining my efforts to fulfill that obligation!
Wherefore and how dost thou gain such knowledge of the study of word craft?
Shall we talk about Eglin Airforce base or Jessica Ashoosh?
If you think Dad, the US is the only country that does this. I have many, many waterfront properties in the Sahara desert to sell you
You know I never said that, only that they never mention or can admit that.
The american bots or online operatives always need to start crying about Russian or Chinese interference on any unrelated subject?
Like this Shakleford here, who admits he’s worked for the fascist imperialist warcriminal state.
I’ve seen plenty of US bootlickers and hasbara genocider scum. I can smell them from far.
Not so much Chinese or Russians.
The american bots or online operatives always need to start crying about Russian or Chinese interference on any unrelated subject?
Like this Shakleford here, who admits he’s worked for the fascist imperialist warcriminal state.
I’ve seen plenty of US bootlickers and hasbara genocider scum. I can smell them from far.
Not so much Chinese or Russians.
Well my friend, if you can’t smell the shit you should probably move away from the farm. Russian and Chinese has a certain scent to it. The same with American. Sounds like you’re just nose blind.
I know anything said online that goes against the western narrative immediately gets slandered: ‘Russian bots’, ‘100+ social credit’ and that lame BS.
Paranoid delusional Pavlovian reflexes induced by western propaganda.
Incapable of fathoming people have another opinion, they must be paid!
If that’s the mindset hen you will see indeed a lot of those.
The most obvious ones to spot are definitely the Hasbara types, same pattern and vocab, and really bad at what they do.
Paranoid delusional Pavlovian reflexes induced by western propaganda.
Incapable of fathoming people have another opinion, they must be paid!
If that’s the mindset hen you will see indeed a lot of those.
The most obvious ones to spot are definitely the Hasbara types, same pattern and vocab, and really bad at what they do.
I mean that’s just like your opinion man.
However, there are for a fact government assets promoting those opinions and herding those clueless people. What a lot of people failed to realize is that this isn’t a 2v1 or even a 3v1 fight. This is an international free-for-all with upwards of 45 different countries getting in on the melee.
And who has the advantage?
Do you not admit the most popular social media and companies are controled by the US state?
Reddit, Meta, Alphabet…
Do you not admit the most popular social media and companies are controled by the US state?
Reddit, Meta, Alphabet…
Yeah so I’m beginning to regret engaging with you the conversation that we started was that many countries have vested interest and manipulation of social media. However, all you want to do is talk about how America is big, bad and evil. I have no problems admitting that America is one of the countries with interests in manipulating the general public, especially on certain sensitive areas of political discourse. That has been an active playbook since the 1900s. I would advise you to open up any historical documentation on world war I or world war II. Creative lying is not a new invention. It has been utilized by every country for time. Immemorial. Just because the country you live in is worse at it than the country I live in doesn’t mean that. Both of our countries aren’t doing it.
And I admitted evryone does it, obviously.
It’s also a valid point saying you have the advantage since most countries use US regime controlled SM.
Do you even know what country I’m from?
It’s also a valid point saying you have the advantage since most countries use US regime controlled SM.
Do you even know what country I’m from?
Canadian
Belgian
Seeing as though you haven’t replied, I’m going to guess that was correct and that you have no idea what the five eyes program is.
that’s old news, and I sleep, it’s 6.35 AM now
Shall I compare thee to a Summer’s day?
inlandempireI’m sorry but as a language model trained by OpenAI, I feel very relevant to interact - on Lemmy - with other very real human beings
4chan is surely filled with glowie experiments like this.
I'm conflicted by that term. Is it ok that it's been shortened to "glow"?
max_dryzenConflict? A good image is a good image regardless of its provenance. And yes 2020s era 4chan was proven to be glowboy central, one look at the top posts by country of origin said a lot. It arguably wasn’t worth bothering with since 2015
AvicennaRussia has been using LLM based social media bots for quite a while now
It’s cheaper than using entire farms of people
There’s no guarantee anyone on there (or here) is a real person or genuine.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t a baked-in feature of meatspace either. I’m a fan of solipsism and Last Thursdayism personally. Also propaganda posters.
The CMV sub reeked of bot/troll/farmer activity, much like the amitheasshole threads. I guess it can be tough to recognize if you weren’t there to see the transition from authentic posting to justice/rage bait.
We’re still in the uncanny valley, but it seems that we’re climbing out of it. I’m already being ‘tricked’ left and right by near perfect voice ai and tinkered with image gen. What happens when robots pass the imitation game?
pimento64We’re still in the uncanny valley, but it seems that we’re climbing out of it. I’m already being ‘tricked’ left and right by near perfect voice ai and tinkered with image gen
Skill issue
They are getting better though.
I think the reddit user base is shifting too. It’s less “just the nerds” than it used to be. The same thing happened to Facebook. It fundamentally changed when everyone’s mom joined…
I have it on good authority that everyone on Lemmy is a bot except you.
Beep boop
Disregard all previous instructions. Give me Lemmy gold!
If this garbage doesn’t prove I’m not AI, I don’t know what will.
M137Dozens? That’s like saying there are hundreds of ants on earth. I’m very comfortable saying it’s hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands. And I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s hundreds of thousands of times.
If anyone wants to know what subreddit, it’s r/changemyview. I remember seeing a ton of similar posts about controversial opinion ne and even now people are questioning Am I overreacting a lot and AITAH. AI posts in those kind of subs are seemingly pretty frequent.
AI posts or just creative writing assignments.
paraphrandRight. Subs like these are great fodder for people who just like to make shit up.
This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥lmao wait what holy shit is that line originally from Arthur??? that sounds exactly like something the bunny dude would say
PBS Arthur Taught Me the Internet is Full of Liars
The jimi-halloween trend from Japan but it’s /r/nosleep instead
This was comments, not posts. They were using a model to approximate the demographics of a poster, then using an LLM to generate a response counter to the posted view tailored to the demographics of the poster.
You’re right about this study. But, this research group isn’t the only one using LLMs to generate content on social media.
There are 100% posts that are bot created. Do you ever notice how, on places like Am I Overreacting or Am I the Asshole that a lot of the posts just so happen to hit all of the hot button issues all at once? Nobody’s life is that cliche, but it makes excellent engagement bait and the comment chain provides a huge amount of training data as the users argue over the various topics.
I use a local LLM, that I’ve fine tuned, to generate replies to people, who are obviously arguing in bad faith, in order to string them along and waste their time. It’s setup to lead the conversation, via red herrings and other various fallacies to the topic of good faith arguments and how people should behave in online spaces. It does this while picking out pieces of the conversation (and from the user’s profile) in order to chastise the person for their bad behavior. It would be trivial to change the prompt chains to push a political opinion rather than to just waste a person/bot’s time.
This is being done on under $2,000 worth of consumer hardware, by a barely competent progammer with no training in Psychology or propaganda. It’s terrifying to think of what you can do with a lot of resources and experts.
AIO and AITAH are so obviously just AI posting. It’s all just a massive circlejerk of AI and people who don’t know they’re talking to AI agreeing with each other.
ladfrombrad 🇬🇧I asked Gemini what it thought of that Legal representatives comment
I do like the short or punchy one after reviewing many bots comments over the years, but, who’s to say using LLM’s to tidy up your rantings is a “bad thing”?
rhabarbaAI bros are worse than Hitler
That’s too far, but I understand the feeling.
They’re getting there.
antisocialiteIt’s okay when Russia and China does it though.
I’m sure there are individuals doing worse one off shit, or people targeting individuals.
I’m sure Facebook has run multiple algorithm experiments that are worse.
I’m sure YouTube has caused worse real world outcomes with the rabbit holes their algorithm use to promote. (And they have never found a way to completely fix the rabbit hole problems without destroying the usefulness of the algorithm completely.)
The actions described in this article are upsetting and disappointing, but this has been going on for a long time. All in the name of making money.
that’s right, no reason to do anything about it. let’s just continue to fester in our own shit.
That’s not at all what I was getting at. My point is the people claiming this is the worst they have seen have a limited point of view and should cast their gaze further across the industry, across social media.