"How did we get to the point where
85% of the children in the world that
are killed with guns are killed in the
United States?"
~ Captain Mark Kelly
Republicans receive donations from gun manufacturers. Republicans want more donations so they support the sale of more guns. That is how...
@joewo We know the American gun nutter's answer to that question;
"NOT ENOUGH GUNS!!
"How many of those children weren't adequately armed to protect themselves?"
Disabled elder here. The troubles that come from gun culture are *far* outweighed by the benefits. Guns make us equal. Without guns, the old, the weak, the small and the disabled are at the mercy of the the young, the strong, the big and the able-bodied.
A weapon isn't about equality. But if everyone carries a gun perhaps they just halve their population from time to time.
But not everyone has them and they never will so that's an unequal society, so no it's not a mechanism for equality.
@simon_lucy @TimWardCam @joewo
It's not a mechanism. It's an implement with which to level the playing field between individuals. For example:
I'm a 76 year old, four eyed, gimpy legged, stroke survivor. I used to have superior balance. I rode a motorcycle in traffic for decades and never got killed, not even once. Now I never know when the floor is going to start feeling like a boat deck. Fisticuffs are no longer an option.
My SO is just shy of 80 and stands just shy of five feet. If even a lone thug broke in here to rob us, or worse, we would not be his physical equal, but for our guns.
It doesn't scale to social level. Guns can't bring us economic equality. We tried that. It didn't work. There is no military solution to capitalism. It's not a military problem. It's an economic problem. It needs economic solutions. Want equality? Replace capitalism with #LibertarianSocialism. Bada bing. Problem solved. Well, that particular problem, anyway. But inequality is not our only problem.
People breaking into your house is not about equality and it's a peculiar preoccupation. Is this a likely event and if they did break in whilst you slept how likely are you to be able to defend your property and selves, whether you have weapons or not?
Perhaps an alarm connected to the police would be of more utility.
@simon_lucy @TimWardCam @joewo
Uvalde proved once and for all that cops are worse than useless, they're in the way.
Uvalde proved once and for all that cops are worse than useless, they're in the way. There's a name for people who rely on police to protect them. They're called "victims."
Police have no obligation to protect us. The SCOTUS agrees:
See: Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005)
See also: DeShaney v. Winnebago County, 489 U.S. 189 (1989)
You can live in a dark place or not. That doesn't make it sane.
@simon_lucy @TimWardCam @joewo
I live in America. That's how it is right now. For a lot of people that's how it has always been. You can ignore us all you want, but we're not going away. The only reasons I haven't left this place is I don't have enough money.
Sanity is facing reality for what it is and doing something about it.
You can ignore reality all you want but you can't ignore it into not existing. Believing you can is nuts.
I'm a realist. You're a troll. Go away.
@simon_lucy @[email protected] @joewo
They lie. They're blocked.
And blocked, probably a mercy.
That they're on kolektiva means they think they fit in an Anarchist collective, which may well be so but they seemed more libertarian survivalist but who knows.
@TimWardCam @simon_lucy @joewo
He lies.He's blocked.
The dark place is not your location but your perception of it. Which you can take as patronising if you like but it isn't intended to be so.
@LevZadov @simon_lucy @TimWardCam @joewo 🤷That's a problem with your society. Trust me, there are enough countries in Europe here where you can live your life without much violence. My 3 biggest sources of violence:
* US movies
* books
* news
But then our society is not yet as savage as the US one.
@yacc143 @[email protected] @[email protected] @joewo
500 years of brutal colonialism begs to disagree.
@LevZadov @joewo Ah, the US Libertarians are planning to sabotage the European Project, plans for our own version of #Project2025 have leaked, but let's touch wood, after centuries when warfare between European powers was the norm, since the 1950s the members of the EEC ⇾ EC ⇾ EU have managed to solve their issues without war and violence.
We had bad wars on the periphery (YU, now UA), but that was never what the European Project was meant to guarantee (peace outside their members).
that, let the outside representation be done by France. And is too cheap to have their own defence and would rely in case on the French Armed Forces to defend them.
Yeah, it's not perfect, but they generally avoid overly much violence, by letting the places decide themselves and just giving them a better deal than independence. (Which is objectively speaking not hard, if you are not US libertarians super rich who share too many genes with dragons, and hence have a problem sharing even one coin
@yacc143 @joewo Personally I see anyone with a gun as a threat[#]. So I'd program my AI to shoot at anyone it saw with a gun, to get in first.
[#] Except for the way the British police sometimes do it. The (rare) armed police often go around in pairs, one of the pair being a young girl so as to not look threatening.
Q: Is it true that 85 percent of all the children killed by guns in the world are killed in the United States? A: No. This statistic, misused by the husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, refers to a study of 23 high-income countries in 2003 that made up less than 14 percent of the world’s population. A coauthor of that study says the percentage of children killed in the world who lived in the U.S.
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