https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/04/05/microsoft-50-employee-protests
@daringfireball @gruber hey John, I can see where you’re coming from but it is worth considering if the protesters may have been more informed about specific AI technology that impacted tactics which are really truly indefensible war crimes.
Here’s a really good article you may want to read for some context and then consider why an AI forum, even if Microsoft wasn’t involved in it, isn’t the worst place because AI war abstraction has directly led to extremely bad stuff:
@daringfireball @gruber and I see your POV on doing business etc. and think your argument there is well reasoned, but I hope you’ll read the article because it was, at least for me, eye opening in an almost life changing way about the misuse of technology with specifics I haven’t seen good reporting on anywhere else.
I say all of this in good faith and only looking to inform not argue. Take care.
@gruber NYT confirms, finally:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/25/technology/israel-gaza-ai.html
“Yet even as Israel raced to develop the A.I. arsenal, deployment of the technologies sometimes led to mistaken identifications and arrests, as well as civilian deaths, the Israeli and American officials said.
Many of these efforts were a partnership between enlisted soldiers in Unit 8200 and reserve soldiers who work at tech companies such as Google, Microsoft and Meta, three people with knowledge of the technologies said. “
@gruber as far as company involvement, I agree with your point that whistleblowing would be the right move.
It’s unclear if these people went back to war and took knowledge they learned independently or if they leveraged proprietary company research.
That would require more in-depth knowledge, Google’s response makes sense but Microsoft and Meta didn’t comment on the record so, who knows.
It’s tragic regardless and a horrible misuse of technology. Just thought the context might help.