Democrats Need to Make Republicans Fear the Consequences of Attempting a Dictatorship

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They won’t. They’ll make sure nothing fundamentally changes.
This mindset is how Trump got a 2nd term
This mindset is how Trump will get a 3rd term.
Spreading FUD against Democrats helps Trump get reelected.
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Democrats being feckless losers with no spine or vision is how Trump got elected and re-elected.
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It was a combination of foreign election influence, billionaire class and GOP propaganda. And in the end Trump won by 1.5%.

Democrats can only do what the voters allow them to do. All the groups I mention above are actively trying to stop them.

Democrats can only do what the voters allow them to do.

We gave them the means in 2020. They didn’t use it.

During the last election it was all “now is not the time to change course.”

Well now we have over three years to re-tool the Democratic party into something that can win. But we still have people saying “Nooo we actually need Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and all these useless benchwarmers to win.”

No we fucking don’t. There is plenty of time to make change. Unless you don’t actually want change from these conservatives in all but name.

During the last election it was all “now is not the time to change course.”

It’s like that right now.

The DNC complaining that other Democrats are trying to get more active people into positions of power. The chair made statements lamenting how he couldn’t punish his own people because they weren’t breaking any rules.

“Nooo we actually need Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and all these useless benchwarmers to win.”

No one is saying this. It’s more like “Voters have not been voting for progressives. If democrats primary more progressives, democrats will lose elections as much as progressives do. We can’t afford to do that against Trump.”

When potential voters are polled on their view of progressive policies, they support them. It’s only when they’re labeled as Democratic Party policies that they lose.

Draw your own conclusions about whta the Democratic Party is contributing.

“Voters have not been voting for progressives."

What this actually means is “we have not allowed the voters any progressives to cast votes for”. The people who really most care about voting for progressives are doing so, and are voting third party. This is by design. If the DNC fielded any actual progressives they’d likely receive such a flood of record voter turnout that the Dems would then have their hands forced into actually accomplishing something to the detriment of their campaign donors. This can’t be allowed to happen because then the money faucet turns off. They’ve been controlled opposition, running on a platform of “at least I’m not that guy”, for as long as I’ve been alive and I can only assume several decades prior. The momentum of the two-party system blocking out viable third party candidates is what safely allows this for them.

Implement ranked choice voting now and we can rip this entire ugly weed up by the roots. Making the two-party megalith vulnerable will light a whole lot of fires underneath a whole lot of asses in the existing structure, as well as actually enable more than two political parties to exist in America.

Unfortunately this change must come from the bottom up, because the DNC from the top down benefits from the status quo and won’t shoot themselves in the foot with this. This can’t happen until a suitable number of leftist/independent/third-party representatives are already elected for local and state office to successfully make the push for this in congress, which puts us in a fine catch-22 where we probably need RCV in order to elect independents but we probably need to elect independents to implement RCV.

I hate it here.

Don’t talk trash about the party willing to compromise with fascists on the open-source federated social network. You might make someone think communism is a good idea.
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sure is, because god knows the centrist dems havent learned a single thing from their loss and will play the same losing strategy they always do next election.
TBH the way these posts keep popping up with everyone shitting on dems makes me think it’s a huge bot farm.

It definitely looks like that.

I see the same accounts posting and interacting with each other and reposting the same content with the same comments.

Pretty sus

“Everyone to my left and only my left must be a bot.”

Voters: “Please stop funding a genocidal regime”

Dems: “Nah, we’re going to stay the course. And how dare you speak out against it!”

Yes, Trump has been harder on anti-genocide protestors, but it definitely started under Biden’s term.

Harris throwing the election by promising to continue Bidens war crimes is how trump got a second term.

Real Democrats need to ditch the establishment Dems and form their own version of MAGA from within and get shit done.

I saw yesterday where they were going to sideline David Hogg because he was becoming a little too dangerous to some of the members of the ‘Do Nothing’ party.

What a waste.

Meanwhile everybody is complaining about how dumb Meidas Touch is. Excuse me, are we not even going to bother copying Fox News feeding talking points to people with a pulse?
There’s nothing to be gained by copying fascism.

It’s not copying fascism if you keep the rhetoric honest.

The distinguishing factor is truth

His video titles are so catchy but the content is so bad. I avoid his stuff but will sometimes try to find out what he’s talking about from a better source.

If you watch the Bernie/AOC rally vids, that is what he’s trying to inspire. One vid has a nurse from the crowd talking about working 7 days a week, to live, and she frankly says the old people need to retire, calling out both Pelosi and Schumer. She’s right. Conservatives also attending.

Younger people need to compete with and oust the established Dems, like AOC did in her district, or we will never see a fresh approach.

If we still have elections in the upcoming years, it would be fantastic for people like AOC to run for public office all around the nation.

In fact if you are in a position to, I would encourage everyone reading this to take a moment to look up your state’s candidate filing procedures and see how you can try taking an official’s job that they’re not doing. Just because you may not have the millions in funding doesn’t mean you can’t or won’t have a shot at winning.

I have never, ever in my entire life aspired to any sort of political office. I figured I wasn’t well suited to that, I don’t have a law degree, it’s just not for me.

These days that opinion is now “well I couldn’t possibly do a worse job than the ones actually getting elected for this”, so…

Fuck around, and y’all might catch me running for local office soon.

Yes please! And ditto, I too never thought I would/could aspire to run for office but if any positions are up for election near me I will earnestly look into running.
Yeah Hogg was dropping some good shit last week. That got him in trouble. Now they want him to shut up.
Dude is so inspiring. I wish more young people gave a shit like him.
The democrats’ response to a young person giving a shit is why more don’t.

Just like when waltz was popular he got sidelined/muzzled and anything that polled well for the Kamala campaign got dropped.

Almost like there’s a pattern

If your goal is to organize opposition to fascism, don’t waste effort attempting to coalesce it around the Democrats. They’ll only come around once they’re overtaken by events. Someone else has to do the heavy lifting and take the risk.
To employ the crude vernacular, no Democrat has the requisite reproductive organs necessary to solve MAGA, either testicles or ovaries.

what are boobs if not balls for the chest? chesticles if you will, and what are balls, if not the small wrickly dangly boobs between your legs.

it does not matter, as dems have neither :) (i wanted to be a part of ur silliness I apologize in advance)

Boobs are the milk of human kindness. Testicles are the seeds of evil.
I don’t really like this way of thinking. Women are just people, as are men. A matriarchy isn’t preferable to a patchriarchy.

I wasn’t really making a statement about the sexes. Milk of human kindness is a Macbeth reference, but also in Fallout 4 from the supermutant Strong. He misunderstands the Macbeth quote and wants to find the milk of human kindness because he thinks it is what makes humans powerful.

The seeds of evil, I was speaking of humanity. It is literally the seed, and it produces both men and women.

The Democratic leadership seems to have decided that the way to do this is “get out of their way and let them complete an irreversible takeover and descent into fascism”.

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People voted the dems out of the way of fascism.
Right. Got to teach those voters a lesson: never question party leadership.
The DNC needs to go, it isn’t reformable
This is true of both parties, and our sit two party system.
well we can start with our own party.
And if Demoocrats won’t, then the general population will need to do it.
Fear the Consequences? Have they run that Idea by DNC Leadership? Because the LAST Thing they would WANT to do is HURT Republican Voters FEEWINGS NO MATTER THE COST!
I have said it before but republicans need to become irrelevant to the point they change the party name again.

I’m not so sure they even want that at all. Simply because of their shameful behavior, while the US president acts like a goddamn Nazi (because he obviously is one, of course).

But for all that, the Democrats have refused to allow even a little progressiveness in their ranks for years, against the wishes of their own voters.

But hey, I don’t know very much about all this because I’m from Germany.

All I can say is that in our country - and this applies to larger parts Europe - Sanders, for example, would be a moderate center-left politician. What he is calling for is not at all radical in many parts of the world, but rather quite normal. Basic decency, so to speak…

Yup. The Democratic party is the Republican party of 40 years ago. The Republicans are obviously now literal nazis, fascists, kkk, the worst of the worst. That's all we have and they have no interest in changing that.

Many of us like Sanders because he is a vocal option that is at least left of the status quo. But there are also so many of us that want European left policies. We just can't get it to happen in a winner takes all style of representation. And capitalism.

Yes, unfortunately, I fear, the US has been a plutocracy for a long time.

I think it’s time for US citizens to admit that and change it for good. Of course, I’m fully aware that many Lemmy users have long realized this.

I really don’t want to offend anyone with this obvious statement, but it’s simply a fact that many people in the USA have been living like in a third world country for a very long time - even though the US is one of the richest countries in the world.

The reason for this is very obvious: shameless enrichment of the rich and powerful - hardly any difference to Russia imo - more humane means so far, yes, but the effect is basically the same.

This is not meant as an insult at all. I just can’t believe how obvious the corruption in the USA is: Even in the highest offices. People like the President himself or Clarence Thomas obviously no longer feelt the need to be ashamed of anything - they don’t even try to keep any of their criminal activities even remotely secret.

Our system is certainly not perfect and we also have major problems with the resurgence of fascist parties, but this level of open corruption in the USA is simply unbelievable: the shameless insider deals of the president, the unscrupulousness of constitutional judges who so obviously rule against the constitution!

Unconditional immunity for presidents? Imprisonment of innocent people without die process? Wild - only in failed States!

You really don’t have to be an expert in constitutional law to realize that any even halfway decent democratic constitution would of course rigorously rule all this out.

I myself can only observe this from afar and helplessly feel sorry for all good and rational thinking US citizen.

Of course, I have no solutions. Only the obvious warning that the US institutions have long been corrupted.

I wish you all the best and try to contribute at least something from afar - but unfortunately I have little hope, because I believe that the US system is broken beyond repair.

It drives me insane how people idolize these criminals. They will dismiss anything criticizing billionaires as “commie liberal bullshit” and go back to their charlie kirk. The US is and has been completely brainwashed. I can’t tell ypu the weird looks I get when I come right out and say “the billionaires are the problem. Stop using Twitter and amazon”. They act like that is total insanity.

fee.org/articles/economic-fascism/

Just leaving this article from 1994 here

Economic Fascism

Few Americans are aware of or can recall how so many Americans and Europeans viewed economic fascism as the wave of the future during the 1930s.

Foundation for Economic Education
The Overton Window really fucked us.

yes, and the dems lionizing “centrism” and “bipartisanship” played a huge role.

They would sell their own families out if they could paint it as “pragmatic”

They won’t because republicans even if they form a dictatorship are less a threat to their interests and goals than the alternative.
More like they can’t because everybody shits on them online so they don’t get enough votes to do anything.