Miriam2k22
Kim Possible 
The reason you should speak up for Trans people is simple: because you should. Not just because they'll come for you, too, eventually, but because we should care about Trans folks, full stop.
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Elle Plaster@kimlockhartga today on a Teams call, the mention of pronouns was brought up. We are pretty informal, so I started saying EVERYONE IS BEAUTIFUL over and over. It was a short convo.
Not today, Satan.
Ralf Lenz, BOFH Emeritus 🏴☠️@kimlockhartga I think it's simpler than that. It's because trans people are people. Everyone deserves to be treated with care and kindness.
@ralf there ya go!
a fish named dog 🎗️@kimlockhartga See, this is my problem with Niemoller. He didn't care about Jews or trade unionists or anyone. Only when they came after HIM, a white dude, did he care.
TobyBartelsSpecifically when they came after his church, trying to take control of it.
The widely known versions of First They Came have the ‘Then they came for me’ coda, which suggests that the only reason to speak up for others is that otherwise they'll come for you eventually (which people are rightly complaining about here}. But the original speech doesn't have that; Niemöller just says that he (and the people in his audience) are guilty of not speaking up when they should have.
I recently read a good thread about this aspect (the poem vs the speech) on Bluesky, written a couple years ago by someone else who's sick of the poem, although unfortunately you have to be logged in there to read it: https://bsky.app/profile/ebthen.bsky.social/post/3kdn53wb3ue2l
Lisa Melton@kimlockhartga This. 💯
Scott 🇮🇱🇺🇦 WILL NOT COMPLY@kimlockhartga @rpardee And also, they really will eventually come for you.
PoloniousmonkThis is long, but good.
https://thinkbigpicture.substack.com/p/human-sex-gender-nonbinary
econads@Uair @kimlockhartga
The thing is even if there were (only 2) people are just trying to be happy. Let people attempt happiness! Why not?
The thing is even if there were (only 2) people are just trying to be happy. Let people attempt happiness! Why not?
Real QuackThis is one of those "...and" things.
There are /lots/ of reasons.
Pick one or few and stand the fuck up.
WhichOne'sPink 🇫🇮@kimlockhartga Hear, hear!
Julia@kimlockhartga Totally agree. I dislike the framing that “it could be you next”.
cognitively accessible math@kimlockhartga SERIOUSLY!!! It doesn't have to be about you / me :P
@kimlockhartga In fact, this has me thinking. We should be arguing that they just need to be the better humans they know they should be instead of framing it as everybody coming after each other.
I mean, I'm afraid I find it hard to believe it would stem the hate-mongers but... it's got me thinking.
I mean, I'm afraid I find it hard to believe it would stem the hate-mongers but... it's got me thinking.
Romy Ilano
Faraiwe@kimlockhartga we are not free until all of us are free. Period.
The freedom you want is the freedom you should not only afford to others, but fiercely guard for them.
Anything else is a lack of minimal decency.
zbrown@kimlockhartga yes it's very tempting when talking to people to do the whole emotive ‘people I care about’ or ‘me’, I've definitely done it myself, but actually that's a load of rubbish because human rights only mean anything when they also apply to those you utterly detest and if our defence of them is predicted on ‘liking’ a given target we've already lost.
It, quite simply, fundamentally, is the right thing, only thing, to do.
Frank Heijkamp@kimlockhartga Fully agree.
DeanFarrell@kimlockhartga When authority figures tell me that a certain group is a threat, my default position is to support and defend that group. Trans people are just the latest group for whom I've spoken up (and will continue to speak up).
EdenCrowdFunder@kimlockhartga EXACTLY!
Ariaflame@kimlockhartga Because they are people.
@ariaflame full stop.
Noortje Van Leeuwen@kimlockhartga i do just that,i stand up for trans people because its the right thing to do.
And i know they will eventually come for me, but thats not why i do it...
6502 ALU@kimlockhartga while that might be reason enough, if we let politicians and judiciary rule against science for ideologic reasons, then that takes us to a very dark place.
Susan Kaye Quinn 🌱(she/her)human rights are for all humans
right there in the name
That_Damn_Frank@kimlockhartga You are right; and I should be better.
It's just that some of us have a large family circle... and if one of them is Trans, then we feel somewhat protective.
And the thought that Rump's ICE 01-IQ Apes might be sent to try to arrest them invokes a powerful and primitive urge; one that is nearly impossible to fight.
Take your stinking paws off me you damn dirty ape!
😷 Tiffany C@kimlockhartga @Aaidanbird I just told someone that they deserve sympathy because we all share humanity. Same here. People are people!