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The D QuuuuuillBut why vivaldi of all things?
KaRunChiyPeople are too wussy to use waterfox or at least firefox. Just gotta have a chrome variant I guess
GingerBreadManShould’ve picked Brave instead it at least gives you a better user experience.
If you’re wondering bout the crypto stuff, all that can be turned off in under 1 minute in the settings. Turned it off years ago and forgot about it until someone once brought that up in a conversation.
I also use other Browsers like Floorp, Waterfox, Chrome, Librewolf etc.
EnkrodWhat you cannot turn off are the homophobic views of Brendan Eich, Braves CEO and co-founder.
Nor their history with intercepting affiliate links. Sure, that was for a crypto site, but nothing suggests that it can’t happen with other things.
Holy shit… when the Browser itself becomes the Man-in-the-Middle attack
I wasn’t using Brave at that time, and I probably won’t even care if they did that with me, my experience with the browser has been exceptional and I wouldn’t mind letting them get affiliates when 100% of my purchases don’t have any affiliate links anyway, I’m not losing anything and they’re getting money too.
But yeah they shouldn’t have done the replacing part, if someone wanted to support someone’s affiliate programme and Brave automatically replaced their affiliate link it would of course make people angry.
Though that happened years ago and probably wouldn’t happen today, I hope.
That reminds of the Honey extension scam but they did the same thing with affiliate cookies.
So you’re just going to ignore the homophobic part, cool
True that, but I don’t have any control over whose the CEO of a product I use, 99% of CEOs would literally sell their children for more money if they could
skulblakaTrue that, but I don’t have any control over whose the CEO of a product I use
Yeah you sure do, it’s called “don’t use their product”
Companies don’t stay in existince with no customers/users.
People need to learn to separate the art from the artist. I don’t care what the CEO thinks politically I have a thousand more things to worry about.
wander1236Don’t use Brave www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/
Sorry you got downvoted. Once again people are downvoting positive posts about Brave blindly.
It’s no coincidence that the only open source browser that actually blocks ads is the one that gets downvoted all the time. Meanwhile people are dead silent when someone recommends a fully closed source chrome alternative that makes money from search tracking. 🤔
Lol I can’t see downvotes on the client I’m using (Sync). Let them be angry, Funnily enough I’ve seen people on r/browsers compile full on Indexes on why you shouldn’t use Brave and include shit like ☝️🤓 This one time Brave trolled Firefox by running an advertisment* in it. Like goddamn bro I’m not gonna take you seriously if you include shit like that 🤣
DrewGnome web blocks ads, and getting an adblocking extension on Firefox forks is super easy
ɯᴉuoʇuɐWhat browser are you talking about here?
Vivaldi
But this whole discussion was started by a highly upvoted comment that says: “But why vivaldi of all things?”, followed by the poster explaining in further detail why they don’t think it’s a good choice. That’s “dead silent”? Come on.
The votes, not the replies. There’s a bunch of silent lurkers on here who just browse for comments on brave to downvote them.
Everything now, except for FireFox, is a WebKit/Chrome variant.
That is mostly but not entirely true, Firefox has a few variants of its own, alternatives do exist.
I did some research into the topic not long ago, you basically want to choose an engine and from that a browser
Gecko basd (Firefox)
- librewolf
- gnu icecat
- tor browser
- mullvad
- zen browser
Goanna based (Fork of Gecko)
- Pale moon
- Basilisk
Servo based (very early in development/not for daily use)
- servo browser
- verso browser
- flow browser
Ladybird: fully independent engine and browser
Also waterfox. Can’t forget about waterfox. That said, I’m daily driving Zen at this point and am extremely happy with it
Also for completion of the taxonomical reference above, Safari GNOME Web and Konqueror use the actual WebKit rendering engine that branched from KDE Plasma in 2001.
Chrome, Edge, and all the Chromium-based browsers use “Blink,” which branched from the WebKit project in 2013 and evolved separately. It’s different enough now to be considered distinct (developers supporting these browsers need no reminder) but a portion of the original properties are still shared.
Most of the time when people say “webkit” they’re referring to Google’s Blink engine, but the original WebKit project is still around and lives on in a handful of evergreen browsers that bear mention.
Thanks for compiling this so I can reference it later if Firefox ever becomes an issue
GinaWhat’s wrong with Vivaldi?
further contribution to the google chrome hegemony
Ok. Anything else?
sure. i also dislike that it’s a closed source product created by a private company that could rug pull all the users to turn a quick buck at any time. they haven’t in the last 10 years, and come from a legacy of a company that was very respectful of their customers (opera) but you could also argue the legacy of opera being bought by a spyware company was the last rugpull and that vivaldi will inevitably do the same. but that’s a more abstract complaint
Dude. The day any other browser comes close to the functionality of Vivaldi, I’ll switch. But from my experience with Firefox and Brave, that’s far in the future.
what functionality do other browsers lack? i really mean it. my question is “why vivaldi of all things” and i still don’t think i know
Mouse gestures. For me, they are a must, I can’t browse without them.
I was really hoping for an answer. But it looks like Vivaldi is the best browser, because it has mouse gestures like no other.
My job basically requires that I use Chrome (I work for a SaaS company whose product’s advance features only work on Chromium). Vivaldi has, at least so far, performed the best, offered the most customization that suited my needs, and isn’t Chrome/Edge. I liked Arc as well, but it has the same issues that Vivaldi has.
I don’t like Brave due to its push of AI/crypto, and Opera doesn’t really work with some of our internal apps.
As a decades long Firefox user it sucks, but I don’t have much of a choice when it comes to work. It’s tough finding alternatives built on Chromium that accomplish everything I need without there being some major caveat.
Its UI and UX are very nice, I loved it while I used it, however, Im now using waterfox for privact reasons.
Upset about notepad, so downloaded a bunch of random software that has nothing to do with editing text files?
LumidaubNot A tipping point but several. They’ve been upset about a lot of things but this was the last straw.
jordanlundThought the same thing, nothing wrong with Libre Office, but why not Notepad++?
For me personally, I was using Notepad++, but the enshitification of notepad, to me, was just the last straw. It was another thing in Windows becoming worse, & there was no sign of the enshittification stopping, so I finally jumped ship & switched to Linux.
I think a lot of “Windows 11 sucks!” is kind of overblown. For example:
Have an issue with Co-Pilot in Notepad? Click the gear in the upper right hand corner, scroll down, “Copilot - Off”.
Kind of like when they tried to force Cortana on everyone in Windows 10… super easy to disable, enough people did that, then it got removed.
lifewire.com/turn-off-cortana-in-windows-10-41659…
…microsoft.com/…/641755e7-e8e7-4f4e-ad0a-75d69cab…
It sucks that the user has to take steps to clean this crap out of Windows, but it CAN be done and it’s not THAT different from clearing out all the bloatware vendors like HP used to install by default.
For example:
“My start menu is full of advertising!”
So, turn it off.
“I keep getting ads as notifications!”
(They really want people buying Xbox stuff)
Turn that off too:
…microsoft.com/…/notifications-and-do-not-disturb…
If you can’t figure out these basic configurations in Windows, switching to Linux will not be an option for you. You’ll have no hope of figuring out Linux settings.
I’ve performed every one of those steps (and a few reg edits besides after the second week of repeated uninstalls and turning off copilot in apps and turning off Edge as a default by going through literally every file type and removing it as a default for everything possible (a few .edge_ files not possible to change).
Copilot is back in my apps list and startup files with every boot.
W11Pro, originally I installed from lenovo recovery media but reinstalled from recovery media created from the MS download ISO of the major update to W11 a few weeks ago. Problem continues
Operating Linux isn’t an issue for me.
None of this is relevant. Whether or not I could or couldn’t disable copilot in notepad would have had no effect on me as I didn’t use the app. You missed the point entirely. The enshittification of software by a company signals a shift in the company’s priorities. A shift I’m not willing to support. I’m not saying Linux is for everyone, but it also isn’t as difficult to operate as many people like to make it out to be, especially the more popular distros. And with the progress it has made over the last few years with regard to gaming, I think a lot more people would be happier with Linux than Windows.
Besides that fact, my biggest issue with windows is forced updates.
You can get gedit for Windows.
“I’m done with Microsoft Windows™ because I dislike Copilot™! I will now use Linux even though it breaks constantly and use LibreOffice which probably doesn’t even have a spell checker!”
AlkWeird take. Im a Linux noob and I haven’t broken it once since installing a year ago, and libre office obviously does have a spell checked. It’s a Microsoft office competitor, not some barebones text editor.
I’m also enjoying a stable Linux setup and use Libre spellcheck. I just found it weird that the OP spreads such false information in this supposedly anti windows post, but nobody got it, so joke’s on me
Ah yes you failed to account for one critical detail: I am an idiot. Your joke has no power here.
explodicleLinux still has an unstable reputation among aging Windows nerds who haven’t tried it in 15 years.
Speaking of unstable, when was the last windows update that broke some people’s system? A few days ago?
The author of the post addresses your comment in her thread on Mastodon (see source).
I… I don’t think they do.
I don’t see the problem. Ignoring the fact that Linux doesn’t break that much, they said they got tired of AI so they moved to a platform that doesn’t have AI.
I’m not mad about the downvotes or anything, but I’m astonished that everyone misreads my comment like that. Man, Internet discourse has really shifted.
I still don’t know what you point was supposed to be
Instead of saying something like “I’ve been thinking about making some changes, I’m gonna finally check things out, fingers crossed”, the person in the screenshot went out of their way to emphasize how limited and broken LibreOffice / Linux is.
As an experienced user of both I think that’s utterly ridiculous, so what I was going for in my post was an absurd exaggeration of that sentiment. It’s not the greatest post or anything, but I don’t think the text is super ambiguous either. I guess can kind of see how people mistook my post for one that’s shitting on FOSS (especially with a negative vote count already next to it), and it’s really not the end of the world, but I’m also rolling my eyes at how superficial of a reading that presupposes.
There, you asked.
I think it veget it now. If the user has so many issues with libreoffice, they should switch to something else. I agree.
Reading was not superficial. You didn’t convey that message
Yeah that wasn’t at all the read a got, sorry.
Works on my machine.
Have an upvote for a controversial (hopefully on purpose) cliche take.
kittenzrulz123Wrong, GNU/Linux is absolutely perfect and you’re just broken. Now beg for forgiveness before our lord and savior Richard Matthew Stallman for committing the sin of using absolutely proprietary software or we’ll consider you bloat and sudo rm -rf you
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