The full guide to switching from big US tech to supporting more ethical and EU-based companies! (Redone with OSs added)

https://feddit.nl/post/32675079

The full guide to switching from big US tech to supporting more ethical and EU-based companies! (Redone with OSs added) - feddit.nl

Lemmy

i’d love to see maybe weekly threads where people share their opinion on certain categories. like email, hosting, domain, etc
Feel free to create them!

This community ([email protected]) isn’t really used for anything else so the previous posts about specific topics are easy to see. They don’t necessarily have many comments but it might help you find other places these images posted to.

It’s too bad there are so many communities where this stuff is posted to, real downside of federated content if you ask me because it’s so easy to miss content added in the comment of a duplicate post you never see.

PurchaseWithPurpose - Lemmy.World

A community driven to showing our voice through the things we buy and use.

I always advocate for consolidating [email protected] and [email protected] to [email protected] , but the mods of those two communities aren’t open to the idea
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Too bad, i’d be in favor as well. Even if two of them consolidate that would be a step in the right direction.
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Wanted to take my time to respond to respond there, but decided against it. They want it to ‘let it sort itself out’, so I think it’d be better to let it go myself. What I will do is be more mindful when commenting or upvoting crossposts on less active instances and don’t crosspost my own post to an instance I don’t think adds anything to the wider Lemmy community. Might decide to end my subscription to the lesser active / newer communities.
Maybe we should tell them it’ll be like a European Union of EU communities! :p

Why shall the to europe consolidate into feddit.uk (uk is not member of eu anymore) Why not the other way around?

But yes, it‘s difficult to distinguish or choose between and follow the duplicates.

I think Mojeek was missed for free search engines.
Mojeek

Mojeek is a web search engine that provides unbiased, fast, and relevant search results combined with a no tracking privacy policy.

Yacy. P2P search engine. Well can used local only too. Crawl the web at your own.
Do you use this? It looks amazing, but almost too good to be true.
I set it up on my Raspberry and run it locally in island mode. So I use it separately from duckduckgo. The quality of the results depends on which mode you use and what you are crawling in island mode. You can set rules etc. for the search results or their sorting, but I haven’t dealt with that, but it looks powerful in terms of scope. The tasks for crawling can also be set very precisely, including how much hardware resources can be made available and much more. You can also set when and whether these are repeated. With the depth, the whole thing can quickly take on extreme proportions and should not be exaggerated. As I don’t surf the web that much, I have relatively few sources. If I don’t find anything and have to use DDG, I take the domain from the best result and create a new crawl task and then start it. It is definitely worth a look. If you really want to, you can definitely host a powerful search engine yourself.
Thanks, I’m going to have to think about this.

So i guess this week is about office suits, I barely use it personally (markdown notes work fine) and just open whatever is send to me (most part is Google and Microsoft), but I will download and check the alternatives. Have tried LibreOffice in the past, but some years have passed son will definitely check them out.

Last few weeks i heard a few times about OpenOffice, but it’s not on this list. Guess this the official website Anyone here willing to argue why I should or shouldn’t try it?

Apache OpenOffice - Official Site - The Free and Open Productivity Suite

The official home page of the Apache OpenOffice open source project, home of OpenOffice Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw and Base.

OpenOffice is wildly outdated. LibreOffice was started from a copy of OpenOffice and is under continuous development.

They actually have an issue currently because OpenOffice refuse to take down their website and people keep downloading this piece of old software with the consequences that brings (security bugs, putting people off free software etc.

More info if you’re interested: blog.documentfoundation.org/…/open-letter-to-apac…

Open Letter to Apache OpenOffice - The Document Foundation Blog

Today marks 20 years since the source code to OpenOffice was released. And today we say: LibreOffice is the future of OpenOffice. Let’s all get behind it! It’s great to have a rich and diverse set of free and open source software projects. Hundreds of millions of people around the world have benefited from the […]

The Document Foundation Blog
Thanks, I was surprised when I searched for it online. Just saw it mentioned a bunch of times and that website wasn’t very convincing me to try it. But now I now so thanks, and @[email protected] as well
I miss librewolf

As an alternative to Google Docs / Office, “Docs” by the French 🇫🇷(DINUM) and German 🇩🇪 governments (ZenDiS) is missing! docs.numerique.gouv.fr

It’s Open Source, Self-hostable and European + it looks very polished ;)

Docs

Docs: Your new companion to collaborate on documents efficiently, intuitively, and securely.

Hope they’ll do a spreadsheet app too eventually

They are :) www.beta.gouv.fr/…/grist.numerique.gouv.fr.html

Although this one is still at an earlier stage. Not by chance, the page is still only in French.

grist.numerique.gouv.fr

Le drame Aujourd’hui, pour gérer le cycle de vie de leurs données, les agents publics doivent souvent choisir entre deux options insatisfaisantes : les enreg...

Nice. My french isn’t that good, but if I understand correctly they are constructing it right now :))

En quelques dates Investigation 15 mars 2024

Construction 1er septembre 2024

They investigated in march 2024 and are building it since september 2024
Still no lemmy lol
The creator mods [email protected] , as you can see on the footer
PurchaseWithPurpose - Lemmy.World

A community driven to showing our voice through the things we buy and use.

Yeah, saw that. Just think it’s funny they have it in the footer but not in the graph
Is there any browser with account and synchronization - but decentralized? Even just saving local files so I can sync a folder.
Firefox used to let you self-hosted the account sync. They changed the method they used a few years back and it wasn’t backwards compatible, so I stopped self hosting, but they might still have that option.

I made my own list of non-American browsers recently when trying to switch from Brave. It gets a bit murky with open-source projects that have global contributors (and sometimes anonymous creators) but here it is:

Cromite, Ungoogled Chromium, Vivaldi

Floorp, Waterfox, Librewolf, Zen

GitHub - uazo/cromite: Cromite a Bromite fork with ad blocking and privacy enhancements; take back your browser!

Cromite a Bromite fork with ad blocking and privacy enhancements; take back your browser! - uazo/cromite

GitHub
Ecosia also have a desktop browser. It’s basically ungoogled chrome with a green default theme. You can also change the search engine to something else
I use their search engine but wasn’t convinced the browser offered much, personally.
The OS listing of Mint and Ubuntu is just begging for a distro war. Better off leaving the listing at Linux and BSD.
how about i start it now? MINT BEST DISTRO

kSuite is Google Workspace alternative from Switzerland.

www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite

kSuite – The ethical and secure collaborative solution

Adopt a 100% Swiss Cloud with local support. Included: storage space, messaging, videoconferencing and everything you need to make your projects a reality.

How good is Proton as a paid all-in-one solution for e-mail, calendar, and cloud storage?

@VolumetricShitCompressor

Technically speaking, it's good. But 2 questions:

Do you need end-to-end encrypted emails and cloud storage?
If not, you may find cheaper alternatives (if cost is a thing for you). :)

What would be those alternatives? My main point would be to get away from microsoft with my mail and a somewhat sizable cloud storage (0,5-1 TB).

What about kSuite? Are they better?

@VolumetricShitCompressor

Between Proton & kSuite, both are good, you just need to compare prices and features. :)

Both have beautiful and modern interfaces - you can create a free account on both to test.

Both companies offer very different services from each other included in their suite, e.g., Proton has a VPN and Password Manager, while Infomaniak offer video call, transfer of large files, office online etc.

It also depends on whether you read your emails in a mobile app, browser or email client and the importance you attach to E2E encryption.

So E2E encryption would be Proton and accessing mails on mobile apps would be kSuite, right?

@VolumetricShitCompressor

E2E encryption would be Proton, but you can use Proton Mail through their official app on mobile.

The main "problem" with Proton is usually related to using an e-mail client like Thunderbird, AppleMail, or Outlook to receive Proton e-mails on your desktop.

If you want to use Proton e-mail on Outlook or Thunderbird on desktop, you need to install Proton Bridge. This program will run automatically in the background. This is what handles the encryption and decryption of your emails as they enter and leave your computer. (it eliminates the complexity associated with manual encryption tools)

Since Proton Bridge is made for desktop, the only supported way to use Proton Mail *on smartphones* is through the official Proton Mail app.

@ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor Am trying out Infomaniak’s ksuite and kdrive services at the moment. So far, so good. It’s a pretty solid alternative to Google Docs and Drive in my opinion - also has a Calendar.
@AngelaScholder @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor Yup, checked that out. Pretty good too but full encryption scares me - I don’t need it and if I lose the encryption key or forget where I put it, big problem. If there were a non encrypted service, I’d probably have chosen it.
@alex_p_roe @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor OK, we just login and have access, but no idea if they have a recover the password option if you forget it.
The username and password is in our KeePass database (on our NAS and multiple copies and backups).
@AngelaScholder @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor Password and encryption keys are different - with some services, you can reset the password and not need a key. Don’t know if #cryptpad is like that and I’m not sure I want to find out!
@alex_p_roe @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor I'm pretty sure that so far we never needed the encryption key with #cryptpad as though all other encryption keys are in our KeePass database, I didn't store any for #cryptpad .
I'll have a look at that.
@AngelaScholder @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor Message from Cryptdrive log in page: "Due to the encrypted nature of CryptPad, the service administrators will not be able to recover data in case you forget your username and/or password. Please save them in a safe place." so if you lose or forget your password - problem.
@alex_p_roe @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor OK.....
For a lot of things it's the case that you should remember how to access it...
@AngelaScholder @ueeu @VolumetricShitCompressor True - but forgetting a password is not an issue if you can reset it. It becomes an issue when you can't. I'll stick with systems that allow me to reset passwords for now 🙂 For me, that rules out #cryptpad and other similar services.
@VolumetricShitCompressor @ueeu
I've been using mykSuite+ and I like it a lot!! Very good alternative for Microsoft/Google services.

Use it for years and have nothing to complain about. Well, if you have a custom domain with ä,ö, or ü then it gets translated into gibberish. Still works but doesn’t look pretty.

E-Mail app works as expected. I receive mails and can send them but I’m not a power user who expect any great features.

Calendar works as well. Share it with other proton user and also with an external person. The external can’t create events for us in the shared calendar but that wasn’t a problem so far, i just did it when we had an event.

Cloud storage is fine too. I don’t use the desktop client but I know there is one for Windows. The upload in the Browser works well and sharing files or folders with externals works with an easy link as you might know it from Google drive.

VPN is also as expected. Huge range of IP’s so you will always find one which isn’t banned by your streaming service or other website. Hadn’t any leaks yet while torrenting.

Hadn’t any contact with the support since setting it up but then it was fast and helpful as far as i remember. As Visonary account i got the priority support so I can’t say how representative that is for the regular support.

@VolumetricShitCompressor @Blaze honestly even just the android email client is somewhat slow, and doesn't allow downloading emails to save them locally AFAIK. I respect the whole encryption thing, and I know we're comparing to enshittified services, but there has to be something better out there.

Edit: see below maybe this will improve in the next couple of months.

@econads

They will release an offline mode this summer: https://proton.me/blog/mail-calendar-roadmap-spring-summer-2025

Proton Mail and Proton Calendar roadmap for spring and summer | Proton

This spring and summer, we’re rolling out some of the biggest updates yet to Proton Mail. Here’s a look at what’s coming soon.

Proton
@ueeu oh, that looks hopeful then

@VolumetricShitCompressor What kills it for me is the lack of IMAP/POP/SMTP support. I realise this is at odds with the E2E encryption, but honestly I find that portability more valuable than E2E. E2E in email is kinda overrated unless both parties are using PGP or something I think, and even then it's not necessary on a provider level.

I would also look into allegations of the creator supporting Trump before considering it again (saying this neutrally as I haven't verified it myself yet).

Does this mean that I can’t integrate their mal addresses into existing mail/calendar apps? I already have to have an ms exchange account that I must not use via outlook app, ao I have already two calendar widgets since my private outlook address stopped working on gmail. State of tech in 2025 smh
@VolumetricShitCompressor When I was looking into it the other day, that's what it seemed like to me. Goes for both them and tuta (the two most popular EU alternatives), and seems to be a direct consequence of their privacy focus.
Proton shouldn’t be recommended. CEO is a Trump supporter.