Sentient LoomIt's not time for your point release yet.
UnfortunateShortBeing “up to date” is a lie big Debian tells people to make them feel comfortable about being behind on patches. Wake up people!
swab148It’s hard to go back to Debian after you’ve tasted that sweet sweet rolling release
I just went back to Debian because Arch kept fucking up my graphics drivers. I have actual work to do, I can’t sit around tinkering on my box all day.
Snot FlickermanThere’s definitely something to be said for stability. I use stable releases for all my server boxes.
Arch is fine for a gaming desktop or a desktop you don’t do actual, you know, work, on.
But for work or servers you need stability.
Midnight WolfIndeed! And the most stable machine is one that is EoL and never gets updates! Nothing breaks if nothing gets updated! That’s why I run IIS on a Vista x64 box!
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You can securely run IIS on Vista, you just have to unplug the network and power cables.
I mean, you do you, but I do plenty of actual work on my Arch machine. I’ve been working on an album, which involves not just the recording, mixing, and mastering, but also there’s a bunch of paperwork involved in the business side of things, not to mention stuff like album art. I game on it as well, but saying Arch isn’t good for work is just ludicrous. It’s a DIY distro, you get what you put in. A few basic steps can keep Arch just as stable as anything else.
That said, my server is a Debian machine, but that’s because my services don’t need up to date packages, and I just wanted something I could stick in a corner and forget about.
danA few basic steps can keep Arch just as stable as anything else.
“stable” in this case means “doesn’t change often”. Is that actually doable with Arch?
Sure, you don’t have to update every day like I do, it’s a good idea to do it once every quarter since Arch updates it’s keyring around then. My sister runs Endeavour and she hardly ever updates lol
Nvidia is breaking their graphics driver. Rolling release distros just get fucked by it
I went from Arch to Debian
VoyajerAnd then you switch your debian to testing or sid and realize how good you had it before hopping distro.
Nah, I like pacman more than apt
I agree.
just run Sid
I like pacman with the ILoveCandy config lol
Debian testing is usually good enough. Packages have to be in unstable for ~10 days with no major bugs to migrate to testing. Of course, you can run unstable if you really want to live on the edge.
If you do run testing, you’ll want to install security updates from unstable, since testing isn’t officially supported by the security team. github.com/khimaros/debian-hybrid
And my experience, the only thing that rolling release does is change where/what the bugs are every few months instead of every few years.
On the other hand, my package manager is called pacman and it looks like Pac-Man
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I genuinely don’t know if I am weird or just lucky but even my server runs Arch and its (mostly) more up to date packages have made things easier than any Debian based distro I ever tried.