LuffyEvery immutable distro right now
Okay, I get what an immutable distro is. I get it’s advantages in security/safety. But can someone please explain why this matters? Like, how much safer is this really? I don’t understand the cost/benefit ratio of having an immutable core, especially since compromising the core will probably require fully compromising one or more privileged processes first, at which point it would be game over for a mutable distro as well.
I think the biggest advantage for my use case is the no fuzz aspect. In the rare case something goes wrong I can reboot and select the previous version that worked without a problem. Also the ease of mind knowing I can’t really fuck up my machine, as the important parts are immutable.
Other than that I enjoy having everything gaming related already configured correctly as I use bazzite - but that’s probably also true for non immutable gaming oriented distros.
BjörnHonestly, that’s the same thing I got with BTRFS+snapper. It creates a snapshot before and after any Package installation. In case anything goes wrong I can just go back to a previous snapshot. And on top of that I can easily install native packages and don’t lose any disk space to multiple partitions.
I’ve come to despise immutable operating systems since first encountering them in Android.
B-TR3EHow would you fuck up your by installing packages? Hell, get a reasonable package manager and package installation frontend (and a reasonable brain between your ears if that’s the problem). I can’t see how anyone might get their machines into an useless or unbootable state considering that any useful package manager (even minimalist ones like aptitude or blank apt-get) will inform yopu what it’s goimg to install and unistall. If I see, that my choice is going to remove the complete DIE I am using plus X, or even GRUB, I lknow there’s something wrong with my selection and abort.
“Yes, do as I say”
A power outage during install.
Trying out experimental stuff.
Uninstalling critical packages.
Someone at $distribution fucked up packaging.
You could just as well ask why an immutable system must be immutable. The safeguards are not there for normal operation. They are supposed to help you with fatal irregularities.
…supposed you’re using a distro that isn’t broken, of course. You can’t drive a car that doesn’t start, either. You’re using an exception to prove the general case. That’s not a valid argument.
Why would you expect the general case to go wrong? Of course an error is the exception. Cars don’t have seatbelts and airbags for general driving operation. They are there for the exceptional case something goes wrong. Most people will never need them in their life.
I don’t see how this contradicts my statement. You can’t make a general comparison between specimina of anything if one of your samples is broken.
What are you on about? You wanted to know what could go wrong during package install. I listed possibilities. You can’t just dismiss them as exceptional when the whole point of the snapshots is to guard against exceptional failures.
funkajunk☝🏻People like this fucking nerd are why Linux gets a bad name.