#Xubuntu users! Do you still use "indicators"? In particular, the ones that are not compatible with the modern KStatusNotifier spec?

Xubuntu ships the Xfce Indicator and Systray plugins as well as "indicator-messages." Does indicator-messages (the mail icon indicator) still work? Should we consider dropping the Indicator plugin for 25.10 to fix issues like these? I'm leaning towards yes.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/2059045

Bug #2059045 “Xfce xpanel double network panel icon” : Bugs : xfce4-panel package : Ubuntu

Booted up the Live installer of today's build (20240325) and I see the double network panel icon in the top panel. First time I have seen this on a Live or clean installation. I have only seen it with LTS upgraded Xubuntu installations. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: xfce4-panel 4.18.4-1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-11.11-generic 6.8.0-rc4 Uname: Linux 6.8.0-11-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: zfs ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5Ch...

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@bluesabre I wanted to update on this, since I just upgraded to 24.04 - Volumed is dropped so the only way to get my volume keys working is with the Pulseaudio plugin, the only way to get my brightness keys to work was to use xfce power manager, so those are the two indicators I used most. Trying out bluetooth but that's not looking good either.
@bluesabre So the short answer to your question is yeah, I think Xfce tools natively do what indicators used to be exclusive to - I don't see a reason to keep them in this cycle.
@bluesabre I do still think we need a new Bluetooth tool, Blueman is definitely not it.