I am disappointed at the visceral negative reaction at the all-female crew of the Blue Origin NS-31 flight.

Granted not all of them are scientists or astronauts, but should we not admire or encourage female non-scientists? Granted some of them are rich good-looking celebrities, but they have a large young following. What's the harm if they spread some joy and science among the youth?

Have we become too cynical? Do we instinctively look for faults, esp. among women?

https://www.blueorigin.com/news/new-shepard-ns-31-mission
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Blue Origin’s New Shepard Rocket Completes 31st Mission To Space | Blue Origin

Blue Origin successfully completed its 11th human spaceflight for the New Shepard program. The crew included Aisha Bowe, Amanda Nguyễn, Gayle King, Katy Perry, Kerianne Flynn, and Lauren Sánchez.

Blue Origin

Did we react in the same negative way to members of the previous 10 crew flights by Blue Origin? Many of them were men and/or wealthy and/or celebrities.

I am no fan of Bezos, but a competitive alternative to SpaceX is a good thing.

Let's aim our ire at the hundreds of SpaceX flights that litter our skies with satellites and that pollute our environment, both during launch and during reentry into the atmosphere.

And at the destruction of NASA, NOAA and HHS.

Let's sweat the big stuff.

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Please do look up the wiki pages for these 6 women - Aisha Bowe, Katy Perry, Amanda Nguyen, Kerianne Flynn, Gayle King and Lauren Sánchez.

These are not the Kardashians.

They may not be like us, but then why should they be? There are billions of people out there contributing to society in their own unique ways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha_Bowe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katy_Perry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Nguyen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerianne_Flynn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayle_King
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_S%C3%A1nchez

Aisha Bowe - Wikipedia

@AkaSci this issue isn't with the women themselves.

The the funder/owner of Blue Origin is big supporter of the Trump administration which has caused NASA to close offices related to diversity, equity, and inclusion. This superficial girlbossing is replacing actual work done to include more women in STEM.

Did we react in the same negative way to members of the previous 10 crew flights by Blue Origin? Many of them were men and/or wealthy and/or celebrities.

I sure did. Well, again, not to the individuals themselves, they aren't the issue. I reacted in a negative way to space tourism. Our sky and environment is the playground of careless billionaires. That's what I take issue with.

@calvin
I am with you and others who criticize Blue Origin and Bezos and the billionaire space club.

This thread was about the unwarranted (IMHO) trashing of the 6 women who traveled on this flight.

@AkaSci Of all the things to get angry about, this is pretty close to the bottom of my list, too.
Trump Admin to Slice NASA in Half and Cancel New Telescopes

The White House further plans to cancel upcoming plans for new telescopes to study the cosmos.

The Daily Beast
@AkaSci for me also it look so fake and artificial, maybe for the faces (botox etc); it doesnt look like real people that one can empathize easy; and also maybe the clothes that look so for the "show"

@AkaSci I actually try to be positive about it. Of course its just an expensive version of a rollercoaster ride. Of course its only for the rich, but at least no longer for the richest. Of course its actually pretty conservative tech for spaceflight.

But I at least hope that this spurns some interest in space in groups that usually don't think much about it. But yes, I had more respect for Richard Garriot, who failed to become the first space tourist, but didn't give up.

@AkaSci

Women are getting fired from NASA, women's contributions are being erased, and Bezos sending the Kardashians into space just doesn't sit right.

The reaction isn't visceral.

@cassandracorvid @AkaSci Who among them would you consider Kardashian-esque? I mean, yes, this is femmewashing and not comparable to an all-female NASA mission. But language like this is a bit misogynistic. They’re rich celebs, taking just the latest ride on an obnoxiously rich celeb’s “spacecraft” vanity project. There’s no expectation of substance here, or with anything related to Blue Origin.

@smitha

I'm ok with comparing a group of non-astronauts in skin-tight jump suits Kardashians.

Block me and move on. I am unapologetic about criticizing Bezos replacement of actual scientists and engineers with these Dancing with the Stars rejects.

@AkaSci

@AkaSci I'm intrigued that anyone expected it to be anything other than a joyride for a bunch of wealthy women and a publicity stunt for Blue Origin.

We see women exploited every day for profit in the media, why is space travel required to be politically correct?

@anne_twain @AkaSci at a time when the tangerine führer is sacking women who work at NASA and stripping their bios from the website to rewrite history, not the time to celebrate a costly joyflight

@AkaSci It's a stunt to promote space tourism to millionaires. While many Americans don't even have health care, space tourism is a thing.

Nothing more clearly demonstrates that we, as a society, have the resources to take care of everyone but choose not to than space tourism. It's such a gross waste of resources.

@AkaSci Cynical? Hah. You need to ask women in STEM about this. You need to ask them what kinds of crap they have had to fight back in order to be taken seriously in their fields.

This was not a serious venture. It was influencer tourism which only encourages the bullshit sexism against women in STEM.

@AkaSci I think the round criticism of the flight is correct - this isn't a win for women by any stretch of the imagination. Sanchéz piled some big names into her (male) fiancé's suborbital joyride in custom form-fitting jumpsuits (where was Shatner's?) and together they produced a media spectacle focused largely around their looks.

I think space tourism for the super-rich is a waste of our meagre resources at the best of times, but this is cynical in its vacuousness. Each if the passengers is perfectly accomplished in her own right, but they take the opportunity to talk about astrology, skydiving to test hairdos and zero-G lashes. Shepard's daughter flew on an earlier flight and thoughtfully contrasted her experience to her father's, Shatner spoke of grief.

What does hairstyle have to do with an overview effect? What did anyone get out of this, beyond Content™️, publicity for the passengers and another kiloton of carbon in the atmosphere? The message I see is that women can do anything, if they are successful popstars, marrying one of the richest men in the world and most importantly obsessed with physical appearance. I don't see anything to be positive about.

Heh heh... that rocket looks like a penis...
@AkaSci AFAIK this was the first NS flight during which an astronomical object was imaged, however briefly, and also explicitly mentioned by one of the passengers afterwards - if it takes 6 women to get there, I'm fine with it. ;-)

@AkaSci Fair, but I’m just as negative regarding a crew of all male tech-bro “astronauts” going to “space”.

Meanwhile, there are plenty of awesome female role models who are currently being fired and erased from NASA and other agencies. Let’s do photoshoots and bio-blurbs about them instead. Sexy sci-fi uniforms and penis-rockets strictly optional.

@AkaSci My own distaste was with the crew or even the rocket. It's always Bezos.