Natalism: The New Hotness

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Natalism: The New Hotness - Lemmy.World

How do these Natalists feel about the African continent?

Antinatalism what what - don’t make fresh when plenty actual living kids need rescuing.
I watched a video recently on how South Korea is pretty fucked because of their declining birth rate. 2.1 is fine by me.
There is nothing bad about going back to a sustainable population level. The cost for raising a child is greater than the cost for taking care of elderly. When elderly die that frees up resources for the next generation making it even easier.

The problem with declining population is the huge bubble pop you get when the population is mostly elderly people and few workers.

Right, but this can be resolved with immigration.

Maybe in the west. Not in places like South Korea or Japan. Even if you got the populations to buy in to immigration 100%, you’ve got an impossible task convincing immigrants to learn the language.

English’s hegemony over the world makes immigration to non-English-speaking areas a huge problem. Quebec, for example, tries mightily to force immigrants to learn French and the results are quite ugly in Quebec politics.

you’ve got an impossible task convincing immigrants to learn the language.

Do we? The languages aren’t that hard, people learn languages all the time especially if they move.

Just make it a requirement for citizenship, offer classes, etc.

Most people don’t want to learn another language they want to do other stuff.

Example: me, I want to do other stuff.

They aren’t exclusive.

I learn languages without actualy putting in effort, just fucking expose yourself.

Also, that’s fucking rude, this is their country and their culture, you should respect them.

I don’t even respect my own culture.

Mine’s let me down a lot lately.

But other cultures, I’m a guest.

No one chooses to exist, so you could argue we’re captives regardless of where we are. Not guests.

But yeah, I’m not moving anywhere that speaks a different language anyway if I can avoid it. Sounds like too much of an impediment and risk, being unable to function in society that you don’t speak the language in. You end up too vulnerable and dependent on strangers and I don’t tend to trust people I don’t know.

If you enjoy on an intrinsic level learning another language, fine. That certainly would explain why you “learn without putting in effort”. Its not for me however. I have no desire. I’m far more interested in other things.