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The archive.org link to hundreds of GMA members is dead. Bizarre, considering archive.org should not be losing stuff. Looks like redirection shenanigans. Anyway, attaching an image here:

If you can’t do graphics here is the 1st half of the list: :::spoiler a-o 3M Company St. Paul, MN Associate-Allied A.T. Kearney, Inc. Chicago, IL Associate-Partner AB SCIEX Framingham, MA Associate-Allied Abbott Nutrition Columbus, OH General Accenture Chicago, IL Associate-Partner ACH Food Companies, Inc. Cordova, TN General Acosta Sales & Marketing Company Jacksonville, FL General Advantage Sales and Marketing Irvine, CA General Aimia Minneapolis, MN Associate-Partner American Spoon Foods, Inc. Petoskey, MI General AmeriQual Foods Evansville, IN General Andros UK Limited Bishops Stortford, United Kingdom General Aon Risk Solutions Kansas City, MO Associate-Partner Ardagh Group Carnegie, PA Associate-Supplier Aurora Organic Dairy Boulder, CO General Azuma Foods International Inc., USA Hayward, CA General B&G Foods, Inc. Parsippany, NJ General Bain & Company Boston, MA Associate-Partner Ball Corporation Broomfield, CO Associate-Supplier Barilla America, Inc. Bannockburn, IL General Basic American Foods, Inc. Walnut Creek, CA General Bayer CropScience Research Triangle Park, NC Associate-Allied BeaconUnited Montvale, NJ General Bell-Carter Foods, Inc. Lafayette, CA General Bellisio Foods Minneapolis, MN General Bemis Company, Inc. Neenah, WI Associate-Partner Beverage House, Inc. Cartersville, GA General Big Island Candies, Inc. Hilo, HI General Bimbo Bakeries USA Horsham, PA General bioMerieux, Inc. Hazelwood, MO Associate-Allied Blue Diamond Growers Sacramento, CA General Booz & Company Chicago, IL Associate-Partner The Boston Consulting Group Chicago, IL Associate-Partner Bruce Foods Corporation St. Martinville, LA General Bumble Bee Foods, LLC San Diego, CA General Bunge North America, Inc. St. Louis, MO General Burdette Beckmann, Inc. Hollywood, FL General Burris Logistics Rocky Hill, CT Associate-Allied Bush Brothers & Company Knoxville, TN General C.H. Guenther & Son, Inc. San Antonio, TX General C.B. Powell Ltd. Mississauga, Ontario L4W 4Y6, Canada General C.H. Robinson Worldwide, Inc. Eden Prairie, MN Associate-Partner California Natural Products Lathrop, CA General Campbell Soup Company Camden, NJ General Can Corporation of America Blandon, PA Associate-Partner Capgemini Consulting Atlanta, GA Associate-Partner Cargill, Inc. Wayzata, MN General Carlton Fields, P.A. Tampa, FL Associate-Allied Catalina St. Petersburg, FL Associate-Partner CEO Search Partners LLC Chicago, IL Associate-Allied CHEP Orlando, FL Associate-Partner Chiquita/Fresh Express, Inc. Charlotte, NC General Clabber Girl Corporation Terre Haute, IN General Clement Pappas & Company, Inc. Carneys Point, NJ General Clemmy’s LLC Rancho Mirage, CA General The Clorox Company Oakland, CA General The Coca-Cola Company Atlanta, GA General Colgate-Palmolive Company Piscataway, NJ General ConAgra Foods Omaha, NE General Consorcio Cï¿½tricos Dominicanos, S.A. Villa Altagracia 1382, Dominican Republic General Continental Mills, Inc. Seattle, WA General Covance Laboratories Madison, WI Associate-Allied Creative Foodworks, Inc. San Antonio, TX General CROSSMARK Plano, TX General Crown Holdings, Inc. Philadelphia, PA Associate-Supplier Cyba Stevens Management Group Calgary, AB, Canada General D.D. Williamson & Co., Inc. Louisville, KY General Daymon Worldwide, Inc. Stamford, CT Associate-Partner Dean Foods Company Dallas, TX General Decernis LLC Washington, DC Associate-Allied Del Monte Foods San Francisco, CA General DelGrosso Foods, Inc. Tipton, PA General Deloitte Consulting LLP New York, NY Associate-Partner Diamond Foods, Inc. San Francisco, CA General Dole Packaged Foods Company Westlake Village, CA General Dow AgroSciences Indianapolis, IN Associate-Supplier DSC Logistics, Inc. Des Plaines, IL Associate-Allied DSM Nutritional Products, LLC Parsippany, NJ Associate-Partner dunnhumby USA Cincinnati, OH Associate-Partner DuPont Fort Wayne, IN Supplier Durrset Amigos, Ltd. San Antonio, TX General E. & J. Gallo Winery Hayward, CA Affiliate Ecolab USA, Inc. St. Paul, MN Associate-Partner El Encanto Inc. Albuquerque, NM General Elanco Greenfield, IN Associate-Partner Energizer Holdings, Inc. St. Louis, MO General ES3, LLC Keene, NH Associate-Allied Eurofins Scientific, Inc. Des Moines, IA Associate-Allied Exponent, Inc. Washington, DC Associate-Allied EY Chicago, IL Associate-Partner Faribault Foods, Inc. Minneapolis, MN General Ferrero USA, Inc. Somerset, NJ General Florida Products San Jose, Costa Rica General Flowers Foods, Inc. Thomasville, GA General Foster Clark Products Ltd. San Gwann SGN 3000, Malta General Freight Handlers, Inc. Fuquay-Varina, NC Associate-Partner Furmano Foods Northumberland, PA General GE Charlottesville, VA Associate-Partner GENCO Pittsburgh, PA Associate-Allied General Mills, Inc. Golden Valley, MN General Genpact International Danbury, CT Associate-Partner Georgia-Pacific LLC Atlanta, GA General Giorgio Foods, Inc. Temple, PA General Godiva Chocolatier, Inc. New York, NY General Golden Specialty Foods, Inc. Norwalk, CA General Gossner Foods, Inc. Logan, UT General Goya de Puerto Rico, Inc. Bayamon, PR General Goya Foods Great Lakes Angola, NY General Grandma Brown’s Beans, Inc. Mexico, NY General Grant Thornton LLP Chicago, IL Associate-Partner Green Mountain Coffee Roasters Waterbury, VT General Hanover Foods Corporation Hanover, PA General Harlow-HRK Sales & Marketing, Inc. Springdale, OH General H.J. Heinz Company Pittsburgh, PA General The Hershey Company Hershey, PA General Hewlett-Packard Company Plano, TX Associate-Allied The Hillshire Brands Company Chicago, IL General Hirzel Canning Company Toledo, OH General Hoopeston Foods, Inc. Burnsville, MN General Hormel Foods Corporation Austin, MN General House-Autry Mills, Inc. Four Oaks, NC General HRCP, a wholly owned subsidiary of McKinsey & Co. Southlake, TX Associate-Partner Hunt Executive Search, Inc. New York, NY Associate-Partner Hussmann Corporation Piscataway, NJ Associate-Allied icix, North America South San Francisco, CA Associate-Allied Idahoan Foods, LLC Idaho Falls, ID General Infor Alpharetta, GA Associate-Allied Inmar Winston-Salem, NC Associate-Partner The Integer Group LLC Lakewood, CO Associate-Allied Intermec Technologies Corporation Everett, WA Associate-Allied Inventure Foods, Inc. Phoenix, AZ General IRI Chicago, IL Associate-Partner The J. M. Smucker Company Orrville, OH General Jasper Products, LLC Joplin, MO General JBT FoodTech Madera, CA Associate-Supplier JDA Software, Inc. Scottsdale, AZ Associate-Partner JOH Billerica, MA General Johnson Foods, Inc. Sunnyside, WA General Jones-Hamilton Company Walbridge, OH Associate-Supplier Jyoti Natural Foods Sharon Hill, PA General Kagome, Inc. Los Banos, CA General Kane Is Able, Inc. Scranton, PA Associate-Allied Kellogg Company Battle Creek, MI General Kerry Ingredients & Flavours Beloit, WI General Kikkoman Foods, Inc. Walworth, WI General Knouse Foods Cooperative, Inc. Peach Glen, PA General KPMG LLP Montvale, NJ Associate-Partner Kraft Foods Group Northfield, IL General Lakeside Foods, Inc. Manitowoc, WI General Land O’Lakes, Inc. Arden Hills, MN General Lang Pharma Nutrition, Inc. Newport, RI General LDS Church – Welfare Services Salt Lake City, UT General LLamasoft, Inc. Ann Arbor, MI Associate-Allied Lowenstein Sandler PC Roseland, NJ Associate-Allied Marakon, a CRA Company Chicago, IL Associate-Allied Mariani Packing Company, Inc. Vacaville, CA General Mars, Incorporated McLean, VA General Martek Biosciences Corporation Columbia, MD Associate-Allied McCain Foods USA, Inc. Lisle, IL General McCormick & Company, Inc. Sparks, MD General => web.archive.org/…/political-contributions-2019 McDonald’s Corporation Oak Brook, IL Affiliate McIlhenny Company Avery Island, LA General McKinsey & Company, Inc. New York, NY Associate-Partner Mead Johnson Nutrition Company Evansville, IN General MeadWestvaco Corporation Richmond, VA Associate-Partner Mï¿½rieux NutriSciences Chicago, IL Associate-Allied Merisant Company Chicago, IL General Michael Foods, Inc. Minnetonka, MN General MOM Brands Lakeville, MN General Mondelez International, Inc. Deerfield, IL General Monsanto Company St. Louis, MO Supplier Monterey Mushrooms, Inc. Watsonville, CA General Moody Dunbar, Inc. Johnson City, TN General Morgan Foods, Inc. Austin, IN General Morton Salt Chicago, IL General Mosaic Sales Solutions Irving, TX General Musco Family Olive Co. Tracy, CA General The Mushroom Company Cambridge, MD General Nampak Ltd. Cape Town, South Africa General The National Food Laboratory Livermore, CA Associate-Allied National Fruit Product Company, Inc. Winchester, VA General Nestlï¿½ USA, Inc. Glendale, CA General Niagara Bottling, LLC Ontario, CA General Nielsen Schaumburg, IL Associate-Partner Nu-Tek Food Science Minnetonka, MN General Ocean Spray Cranberries, Inc. Lakeville-Middleboro, MA General Old Dominion Freight Line, Inc. Thomasville, NC Associate-Allied Oracle USA, Inc. Redwood City, CA Associate-Partner Oregon Fruit Products Company Salem, OR General Owens-Illinois, Inc. Perrysburg, OH General Oy Transmeri Ab 02630 EESPOO, Finland General :::

Political Contributions 2019 | McCormick Corporation

See McCormick’s political contribution disclosures for fiscal year 2019.

The remaining: :::spoiler p-z Pfizer Nutrition Madison, NJ General Pharmavite LLC Northridge, CA General Pinnacle Foods Group LLC Parsippany, NJ General Post Foods, LLC Brentwood, MO General POWER Engineers, Inc. Hailey, ID Associate-Partner PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP New York, NY Associate-Partner The Procter & Gamble Company Cincinnati, OH General Procurian King of Prussia, PA Associate-Partner QAD Inc. Santa Barbara, CA Associate-Partner Ralston Foods, Inc. St. Louis, MO General Reckitt Benckiser Inc. Parsippany, NJ General Rehrig Pacific Company Dallas, TX Associate-Partner Reily Foods Company New Orleans, LA General Resource Columbus, OH Associate-Allied Retail Solutions, Inc. Mountain View, CA Associate-Partner Rich Products Corporation Buffalo, NY General River Run Foods Northumberland, PA General Robert Rothschild Farm, LLC Urbana, OH General Rockwell Automation, Inc. Austin, TX Associate-Allied Roka Bioscience, Inc. Warren, NJ Associate-Allied Roland Berger Strategy Consultants Troy, MI Associate-Partner Ruiz Foods, Inc. Dinuba, CA General RW3 Incorporated Alamo, CA Associate-Partner S.C. Johnson & Son, Inc. Racine, WI General Safeway Inc. Pleasanton, CA Retailer-Manufacturer SAI Global Toronto, ON, Canada Associate-Allied salesforce.com San Francisco, CA Associate-Partner SAP Americas Newtown Square, PA Associate-Partner Saticoy Foods Corporation Ventura, CA General Schawk, Inc. Des Plaines, IL Associate-Partner Seafood Products Association Seattle, WA Associate-Allied Sealed Air Corporation Elmwood Park, NJ Associate-Partner SellEthics Marketing Group, Inc. Matthews, NC General Shearer’s Foods, Inc. Massillon, OH General Shook, Hardy & Bacon LLP Kansas City, MO Associate-Allied Siemens AG Milford, OH Associate-Partner Signature Brands, LLC Ocala, FL General Silgan Containers Corporation Woodland Hills, CA Associate-Supplier Smithfield Foods, Inc. Smithfield, VA General Snyder’s-Lance, Inc. Charlotte, NC General Sonoco Products Company Hartsville, SC Associate-Partner Southern Classic Food Group Brundidge, AL General Starbucks Coffee Company Seattle, WA Retailer-Manufacturer Stericycle ExpertRECALL Indianapolis, IN Associate-Partner Strategic Solutions, Inc. Walnut Creek, CA Associate-Partner The Sun Products Corporation Wilton, CT General Sun-Maid Growers of California Kingsburg, CA General Suncore Products, LLC Denver, CO General Sunny Delight Beverages Company Cincinnati, OH General Syngenta Corporation Greensboro, NC Associate-Partner Target Corporation Minneapolis, MN Retailer-Manufacturer Tasty Baking Company Philadelphia, PA General Tata Consultancy Services New York, NY Associate-Partner TelerX Marketing, Inc. Horsham, PA Associate-Partner Teradata Corporation Miamisburg, OH Associate-Partner Terra Technology Norwalk, CT Associate-Partner Tetra Pak, Inc. Vernon Hills, IL Associate-Supplier Texas Department of Criminal Justice Huntsville, TX General Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc. Waltham, MA Associate-Allied Thomas, Large & Singer Inc. Markham, ON, Canada General Tip Top Canning Company Tipp City, OH General Tree Top, Inc. Selah, WA General TreeHouse Foods, Inc. Oakbrook, IL General Two Chefs on a Roll, Inc. Carson, CA General U.S. Bank - Food Industries Division Denver, CO Associate-Partner The United States Pharmacopeial Convention Rockville, MD Associate-Allied Unilever Englewood Cliffs, NJ General Unilever (Alberto Culver) Melrose Park, IL General University of Phoenix Tempe, AZ Associate-Partner Vanee Foods Company Berkeley, IL General VWR International LLC Radnor, PA Associate-Allied Waste Management, Inc. Houston, TX Associate-Partner Waters Corporation Millford, MA Associate-Allied Welch Foods, Inc. Concord, MA General WhiteWave Foods Company Denver, CO General Wipro Technologies Bangalore, India Associate-Partner Wm Bolthouse Farms Bakersfield, CA General Wm. Wrigley Jr. Company Chicago, IL General ::: My list is a few years old but I don’t imagine GMA membership changes much.

If you oppose technofeudalism and surveillance advertising, then you already boycott these tech giants:

Cloudflare
Google
Microsoft
Amazon
Apple
Facebook

It’s already nearly unsurmountable to boycott just the shitty detrimental corporations. I mean, how many people can boycott Microsoft? That means not emailing your government because chances are they use MS Outlook mail servers. As someone who boycotts all these companies and many more (Procter and Gamble, Unilever, etc), it’s a lifestyle change. Half the items in a European grocery store are from the US.

The only relatively non-evil corp from the US I can think of is Starbucks. I wouldn’t fixate on that. Focus on the shitty corps and it’s already more than most people can handle.

tfm Apr 5, 2025

Why tf do you think Starbucks is a “non-evil” corporation?

Because it’s relative. Their competitor is Nestlé. Nestlé uses child slave labor and argues that water access is not a human right, while the biggest dirt on Starbucks is tax avoidance in the Netherlands and serving milk from GMO-fed cows.

tfm Apr 5, 2025

And exploiting workers, interfering in unionization, selling trash products, and much much more. Starbucks is definitely not better than all the others. In fact, all of big corp is evil.

exploiting workers

Bit vague. I’ve heard nothing significant along those lines.

interfering in unionization

Maybe some one-offs, but if that’s something you care much about, focus on ALEC members. Starbucks never was an ALEC member but most large corps in the US were at one point. ALEC is a centralised heavy hitter in union busting.

selling trash products

It’s overpriced for what you get, which is why I don’t buy from Starbucks. Not as a boycott but that’s just the market working like normal. If you get bad value for the money, you walk. If we were talking about goods that you don’t consume in 10 minutes, sure I boycott designed obsolescence.

and much much more

Why not list it? It’s better to list it because you have a better chance of getting support for the boycott.

I searched my files and found some more dirt on Starbucks I didn’t know about:

Israel – if you boycott Israel, then you boycott Starbucks
GMA (GMO labeling opponent)
Facebook – was the 12th biggest Facebook advertiser one year
child slave labor (chocolate)
CEI (climate denial propaganda)
data breaches (97,000 records exfiltrated)
deforestation / palm oil

HubertManne Apr 5, 2025

I think its a bit silly to think of a boycott in terms of things other people use. So don't run exchange for you private mail server and sure you can petition your government not to use microsoft but you are not falling to boycott microsoft because document you made in libre office and attached to an email you sent on your linux mahine was recieved by an exchange server.

activistPnk Apr 6, 2025

you are not falling to boycott microsoft because document you made in libre office and attached to an email you sent on your linux mahine was recieved by an exchange server.

Of course it’s a failure to boycott. Every time you send email to a Microsoft recipient, you feed profitable data to the MS ad surveillance machine. You also open the door to give the recipient an email address so when they reply you effectively facilitate more food to MS to the extent that you have no control over. And worse, you also signal to the recipient that their email setup works… that it serves them and rewards their choice.

If you boycott MS effectively, then you use snail mail (absent other channels). You feed nothing to MS and block your recipient from using you to feed MS more. You also give badly needed help to the postal service. Look what happened to Denmark. They lost the option to boycott MS. Those people will soon be entirely disempowered, forced to support whatever tech giant naive recipients choose.

Making sure you're not a bot!

DankyDankDank Apr 7, 2025

As a person in the tech space, let me give you my opinion on all of this.

“Of course it’s a failure to boycott. Every time you send email to a Microsoft recipient, you feed profitable data to the MS ad surveillance machine.”

It’s not, because YOU are the one boycotting and not the other user. If you can convince everyone to ditch GMail, Microsoft Outlook, AOL, Yahoo or others, then yeah, you guys are boycotting well. But if the end user of something YOU sent doesn’t boycott, they have no reason to change their client and it is not a failed boycott. Because even if one user boycotts, it is still better if no one boycotted.

The end user would be inconveniencing themselves by communicating with you, because you decided to use something else and force them to use that same thing with you. Imagine this, you use Email Client 1 but the user you sent the email to, uses Corporate Mail 1. Are you going to tell the user that in order to communicate with you they should completely ditch Corporate Mail 1 and use Email Client 1? Don’t you think that is being an inconvenience?

This almost makes me think of some Vegan, animal rights activists, which will tell you how terrible you are for eating meat.

Also, unfortunately, Microsoft and Apple are the industry standards for when it comes to Personal Computing and Workstations.

“If you boycott MS effectively, then you use snail mail (absent other channels). You feed nothing to MS and block your recipient from using you to feed MS more.”

Imagine using snail mail in the digital age to send important documents that need to be signed by tomorrow. Do you realize just how much time and money would take to send a letter from, say, Poland to France?

Not a chance, especially not for critical things.

Using something like Proton would definitely help make things more secure AND less money for the U.S, but how many people do you know that use Proton Mail? 2? 5? 10?

Fact of the matter is, some companies are unavoidable, especially in the workplace.

Don’t inconvenience your colleagues by forcing them to use a different client than what they are used to already. Or, if you want to introduce a new provider, introduce it slowly. Give people the time they need to let it settle in better.

I will also say something that was said here earlier, this way of thinking is incredibly “purist” and too much “perfectionism”

Don’t let “perfect” get in the way of “Good”

People are already struggling to boycott US companies, let alone this purist version you have here.

DankyDankDank Apr 7, 2025

Also, forgot to add…

If you want to avoid Microsoft and Google, good luck with that because a vast majority of search engines use either Microsoft’s Bing API or Google’s API.

And in order to make a search engine that is not tied with Google or Microsoft, it has to be self-hosted, self-coded and completely self-reliant.

If you want to avoid Microsoft and Google, good luck with that because a vast majority of search engines use either Microsoft’s Bing API or Google’s API.

That’s an easy one. For the past several years, this was the absolute best:

ombrelo.im5wixghmfmt7gf7wb4xrgdm6byx2gj26zn47da6nwo7xvybgxnqryid.onion

That service scraped from Google and Bing thus did not finance them. It also filtered out Cloudflare resuits. It’s gone now, but there are countless other instances which do not use the MS or Google API (which feeds them). Most searx instances scrape the results, which ultimately costs MS and Google.

It’s not, because YOU are the one boycotting and not the other user.

No you are not. As long as you feed Microsoft, you are not boycotting. It’s the opposite of boycotting.

But if the end user of something YOU sent doesn’t boycott, they have no reason to change their client and it is not a failed boycott.

It’s a fail because whatever you transmit to an MS user feeds MS with marketing data.

Because even if one user boycotts, it is still better if no one boycotted.

A conversation between two people with MS as an evesdropper is not a boycott. It’s two people feeding MS and helping MS profit.

Imagine this, you use Email Client 1 but the user you sent the email to, uses Corporate Mail 1. Are you going to tell the user that in order to communicate with you they should completely ditch Corporate Mail 1 and use Email Client 1? Don’t you think that is being an inconvenience?

And? Of course it’s an inconvenience. Boycotts are inherently inconvenient. If you prioritize convenience, that’s not activism and you’re not boycotting. You’re just doing what the normal market is designed for – exploiting your addiction to convenience. I suggest reading Tyranny of Convenience by Tim Wu.

Also, unfortunately, Microsoft and Apple are the industry standards for when it comes to Personal Computing and Workstations.

Yikes. You have been brainwashed. They push proprietary conventions. Calling their tech “standards” is the kind of boot licking they love you to do.

Again, you need to drop this bizarre idea that a boycott is convenient. Protests that fail to disrupt fail to be effective. If I get a complaint about an analog letter, I could not be happier. That’s the perfect opportunity to describe the problem to whoever complains.

Not a chance, especially not for critical things.

Why did you wait until the last minute? That’s your fuckup.

Using something like Proton would definitely help make things more secure AND less money for the U.S,

Not in the slightest. MS still sees the full payload of PM msgs. Unless you use a shared key with the MS recipient, in which case MS gets the metadata. With most transactions you’ll have a hard time getting the other side to deal with a password. Try getting a bank to note down a password for such emails and see if they go along with it.

Don’t inconvenience your colleagues by forcing them to use a different client than what they are used to already.

You do you. Don’t tell people what to do.

In a workplace specifically, you likely have a mandate to use the tools of the org. That’s not really an interesting scenario because politics in the workplace is not generally tolerated by bosses.

Don’t let “perfect” get in the way of “Good”

You don’t have “good”. If you are feeding MS, that’s not good. It’s not boycotting. You have perfect getting in the way of “bad”, and rightfully so.

DankyDankDank Apr 8, 2025

Proton Mail is not owned by Microsoft. Ever read a Wikipedia page?

I suggest you do so. I stopped reading after your first attempt at “debunking” me.

DankyDankDank Apr 8, 2025

"Don’t tell people what to do"

is also actively telling people what to do.

Hypocricy at its finest!

I don’t think you are upholding your own standards. If you were, you would have just isolated yourself completely from everywhere.

But I don’t have time to argue with someone who has the same thinking as a stereotypical Vegan lol.

Go ahead am live in your fantasy land where you think boycotting means that everyone you ever send an email to is failing to boycott.

A friend said it best “If you and your friend have been dumping trash on the road and you say ‘I’m gonna quit that’ but he say he will continue. Isn’t it better that at least one of you stopped?”

Your whole idea of boycotts are twisted completely.

Also, FYI, educate yourself first. Proton is not an MS product, you donut.

Again, as a person mentioned here:

“You forgot to put ‘can you pretty please stop boycotting?’ at the end of your talk”

To the other commenters reading this:

Do what you can reasonably do. Going for this perfectionist bullshit is only going to make you want to quit boycotting U.S products and the cycle will start anew.

“Don’t tell people what to do”

is also actively telling people what to do. Hypocricy at its finest!

I’m telling you HOW to boycott as clearly you don’t grasp it. To claim to boycott a company while feeding them is a lie (to the extent that it’s not ignorance- which is what I am addressing considering when the conversation started you thought you could boycott MS while feeding them).

You are on your own to work out whether or not to boycott. That comes down to where MS stands w.r.t your values.

I don’t think you are upholding your own standards. If you were, you would have just isolated yourself completely from everywhere.

That would fail to support the good businesses who compete with the baddies. You’ve misunderstood my position if you think removing support from competitors of my adversaries upholds my standards.

Also, FYI, educate yourself first. Proton is not an MS product, you donut.

Obviously you don’t know how Protonmail works. You only get out of the box crypto if the other person also uses Protonmail you fool. When you send email to an MS user without obtaining their public and or sharing a key with them, MS sees it. You really have no clue how encryption (symmetric and asymetric) works.

DankyDankDank Apr 8, 2025

I am taking my own advice, lol.

Just because you are stuck in your “purist” ways, doesn’t mean that everyone else is going to follow in your footsteps.

I don’t email anyone who uses Gmail or MS Outlook, but if I had to send a reply to and from my work email, to a company which likely uses Gmail, tf am I gonna do?

Shiver me timbers, I’ll send a single email through a corpo-slop server. Oh no… Anyway.

You genuinely have some of THE WORST takes I have seen on here so far. “Starbucks isn’t as evil” “Lidl sucks because they support Israel”

Again, I’m all for boycotting shitty corporations, but if you believe that sending a single email to a company WHO YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT SERVICES THEY USE is stupid.

If you have a phone, best get rid of that, because your local phone provider and U.S Satellites know where you are! They hear all your conversations and see all the SMS messages! God forbid you use your phone to sign up for anything, they can see the code you get from the service. God forbid you use a bank card, because those are owned by either Visa or MasterCard, American corporations. Best get rid of those as well, mate.

In fact, get rid of everything and go live in the woods. Perhaps you’ll learn something about life or something.

I will no longer perpetuate this conversation further as it is entirely useless. I don’t want anyone telling me that I “live in a lie”

We all do, you just don’t understand or realize it.

Liljekonvalj Apr 6, 2025

I’ve found that not many food items in my local shops are american, most of them are in fact European already. Especially if you buy the low price brands/the stores own brands. It’s very simple and affordable to deal with. However, the switch to linux instead of windows, has been proven to be more difficult for me. I haven’t done it yet. I have flashed the drive and tested, but not committed. This is, however, something I really want to do. Due to ethical reasons. However, I’m finding the discussion to move more business to Europe encouraging. To have european alternatives to credit cards and so forth. It is god that Europe is finally taking action. We do need to have the discussion about electricity and oil and gas though. If we choose to switch over to more EV’s we will need to produce more electricity, quickly. There are fast and easy green ways to do this. And we need to push for this. Boycotting little ol’ companies is a fart in the ocean of what we actually import.

Jhex Apr 5, 2025

It’s the same thing… Life in the USA is so comercialized, every possible interaction with the land or its people means paying money to American corporations

Boomkop3 Apr 6, 2025

You forgot the “now can you pretty please stop the boycot” at the end of your talk

Boomkop3 Apr 6, 2025

We don’t need to go into all of these details. Cutting off the obvious few like ditching whatsapp for signal will get you 90% of the way there. But it’s a lot of effort to get to 91%.

Screw that, your energy is better spent elsewhere. Do 90%.

activistPnk Apr 6, 2025

It’s a progression for sure. But there is no reason to draw an arbitrary line and give up. If you always look for ways to advance your ethical lifestyle, you will continually be able to feel a sense of greater progress from the former you.

I even nix whole cities. Oh, this city is uncyclable? Fuck that city; I won’t live there – I’m done with cars and the whole fucking car industry.

Boomkop3 Apr 6, 2025

It’s not arbitary. It’s the line between reasonable and obsessive/wasteful

It’s the line between reasonable convenient and obsessive/wasteful ethical

^ fixed it for you. Everyone has a level of tolerance for inconvenience which can fall anywhere between 0% and 100%, to use your bizarre scale of percentages where a migration from whatsapp to signal is “90%” progress in solving the world’s problems. I cannot imagine how uninformed someone must be about all the surveillance advertising to think that 90% can be attributed to whatsapp, which uses the same tech that Signal uses. Yes, FB hired Open Whisper Systems to implement their tech in whatsapp. You’re talking about a change that is symbolic at best. It’s not even a fart in an ocean of significance.

.It takes 90% of the effort to get from 90% to 91%. You make a whole lot bigger impact spending that energy getting someone else to 90% too.

Stop pretending the world is black and white.

Learn how to save text files and use grep. It’s not that hard if you have some tech competence.

ctrl+F?

ctrl+F?

It’s becoming clear why the effort is so high for you. Loading every document into buffers where you can use control-f in each buffer is of course labor intensive.

Ahh, that’s the confusion. You think I bothered looking through this mess you made at all

You’re still confused. My post is not what you would search.

Do your own research. Make your own records. Search your own records based on your own criteria. Doing your own thinking is your job. Being at the extreme end of lazy has warped your perception of effort which leaves you w/absurd ideas around this bizarre 90% figure. Get off your ass and learn to use grep on filesystems. If you get that far then your bitching won’t kick in until 99%.

Boomkop3 Apr 9, 2025

You took what I said too literal I think. This problem is the same as navigstion.

Try finding a “perfect” route to drive trough all of europe

Try finding a “good enough” route to drive across the whole of europe

Then compare the amount of work and results. Sometimes, good enough is good enough. And more would not be worth the insane amount of effort

Comtief Apr 6, 2025

Agree, this is very political and obsessive. Its not what the boycotting is about.

DankyDankDank Apr 6, 2025

So… Basically, what you are saying is just don’t buy anything, ever?

Because it’s damn near impossible to avoid Nestle, PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, Mondelez and Kelloggs.

Great idea! /s

The only way to abstain from ALL of these is if you buy all the ingredients from the store and make it all yourself, especially if you want chocolate and such!

But for 99% of people, this is not a financially viable option.

Just don’t boycott US companies at this point, they are all entrenched in world markets.

Frostbeard Apr 6, 2025

Nestle is Swiss tho’

Orkla (Norway) has several chocolate brands across Scandinavi, same with Fazer (Finland)

DankyDankDank Apr 6, 2025

Sorry, forgot that for a moment. I don’t know why and for what reason I thought they were American. Good to know, at least, even if I accidentally buy something owned by them, I know I’m supporting European businesses, rather than American businesses.

Frostbeard Apr 7, 2025

No worries. There are plenty of other reasons to avoid Nestlé :)

DankyDankDank Apr 7, 2025

Well, yeah, that is true. But I just know that Nestle is not American and that gives me some peace because money won’t be going to American pockets. :)

As for the reasons, I totally agree that Nestle products are really bad in their policies and such.

I used to buy S. Pallegrino water but I momentarily stopped because I was under the impression that Nestle is American.

(Because this post is posted in a BoycottUS community and because I have a growing distaste for the US as a whole)

activistPnk Apr 6, 2025

So… Basically, what you are saying is just don’t buy anything, ever?

The less disciplined folks who still at least have enough constitution to boycott will patronize the lesser of evils. If you have a bit more self control, of course you can nix a whole category of whatever product.

Because it’s damn near impossible to avoid Nestle, PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, Mondelez and Kelloggs.

I have to say if you struggle to avoid those brands you have quite underdeveloped discipline and self control. Or if your problem is merely tracking all the brands, it’s a memory or attention deficeit. There are knock-off brands for most of it. If you cannot find a knock-off Twix or whatever you think you can’t live without, shoplift it. I’m happy to buy Nestlé and Mondelez products from shoplifters.

The only way to abstain from ALL of these is if you buy all the ingredients from the store and make it all yourself, especially if you want chocolate and such!

Much easier to find knock-offs or shoplifters in some cases. But indeed making it yourself is a decent approach. Instead of buying General Mills pancake mix, buy flour, baking soda, VegEgg (or eggs), and baking powder instead. It’s not going to kill you to give up a minuscule bit of convenience and add 2 or 3 more ingredients. If you make your own salsa and ketchup, you’ll find that what you make is better tailored to your taste than the junk that they try to make for the avg pallet.

DankyDankDank Apr 6, 2025

“If you cannot find a knock-off Twix or whatever you think you can’t live without, shoplift it.”

So your suggestion is “If you can’t buy it, just steal it bro”

Nice thinking lol.

As for the brands, you have absolutely NO IDEA just how deeply rooted all of these brands are. Especially Coca-Cola and the bunch. Up until today, I learned that Coca-Cola owns a very BIG, bottled water brand where I live. And it is not even listed on your infographic.

“Memory deficit” sorry, mate, but this is just not really a memory issue, there is simply too much brands for one person to keep up. I will be opening up my phone 20 times a day just so I can make sure that I don’t buy from any of those, and yet still accidentally buy from them. I could be at the grocery store tomorrow, buying milk that looks like a local brand but secretly it’s owned by one of the ones listed. Because the European Country I’M from is almost entirely unimportant and therefore the brands in it go unnoticed, so there’s no telling of who’s the real owner of the brands in my local grocery store.

I believe in the boycott and I am sure it is going to work. I have almost given up all of my US company consumption. A few exceptions still exist, obviously, but they are impossible to avoid nowadays.

Boycotting US companies is more than enough for me, and my main goal as of right now. Protesting about terrible companies, while certainly a good thing, and I wish I had the willpower to quit them fully, is not my concern at the moment.

I stopped drinking Sprite, Fanta, Coca-Cola, Mezzo Mix and the water brand Coca-Cola bought, as well as Fuzetea. And if I have a chocolate craving, I just buy from Lidl’s homebrand chocolate or Kinder Chocolate if I really want it.

I’ve stopped relying on U.S big tech as much, mainly: Google, Microsoft, Apple, Scamazon and Facebook. I don’t use (F)Elon Musk’s (e)X and for my music? I listen to it through Spotify for commercial ones and SoundCloud for underground people or straight up buy it from Bandcamp.

I don’t eat cereal or any of the “brand names” anymore. I’m just saying, that fusing two boycotts into one is very difficult unless you are absolutely dedicated, and the average person just does not care enough about either boycott.

Just ask my mom or all of my friends. They’ll tell you that they think it’s stupid OR that they can’t live without XYZ product, which is American.

Sorry for the long rant

So your suggestion is “If you can’t buy it, just steal it bro”

Of course. You’re not grasping the point of boycotts and how they work. It doesn’t matter what you consume. It matters what you buy; who you feed profit to. Stealing Twix is even more effective than avoiding it because not only do you deny them your business, you also cost them.

As for the brands, you have absolutely NO IDEA just how deeply rooted all of these brands are.

Make all the excuses you want for your lack of discipline. You’re not fooling anyone. You’re just inspiring other pushovers who can’t be bothered.

buying milk that looks like a local brand but secretly it’s owned by one of the ones listed.

Claiming that it’s okay to do nothing because you don’t have full transparency on all products… not sure who that excuse fools. You have the infographic that gives enough coverage to be able to make ethical decisions.

And if I have a chocolate craving, I just buy from Lidl’s homebrand chocolate or Kinder Chocolate if I really want it.

So you are okay with Lidl’s ties to Israel? That when customers boycotted Israeli produce (often grown on Palestine land), Lidl falsified the source as a different origin… you okay w/that?

jsomae Apr 6, 2025

for fun - - what’s the worst thing each of these have done

I’m not going to dig up my notes or look stuff up but off the top of my head:

FedEx ships shark fins, slave dolphins, and hunting trophies.
Motorola supplies the IDF (Israeli military)
Chevron got caught in project cloakroom, where they spent $100k to arrange secret meetings between large corps and law makers
Sony got caught putting GPL code in their DRM code
Boeing obviously prioritized money above lives when it decided to conceal known safety defects to avoid training pilots, which led to many deaths.
Nestlé (Swiss company) sold dodgy baby formula in a scandal that caused infant deaths
Pepsi is the worlds biggest consumer of palm oil (deforestation)
Coca cola sponsors rodeos in Texas, thus cruelty to animals. It is also a big palm oil consumer

NigelFrobisher Apr 7, 2025

We should definitely set the ideological purity bar for this boycott so high that ordinary people can’t possible meet it and they just don’t bother.

Fungah Apr 7, 2025

But whatever you do, please don’t boycott Deez nuts.

solarvector Apr 7, 2025

Boycott capitalism would be even more straightforward.

Not completely feasible for most people at the moment though.

pleasegoaway Apr 7, 2025

I am absolutely loving NOT buying anything.

I only buy necessities (food, medication, sundries)

I’ve been repairing and repurposing clothes. Buying used items. Driving an awesome old car.

Every chance that I get to NOT buy something is cause for celebration.

solarvector Apr 7, 2025

Agreed (I don’t do all of that but generally choose not to buy of that’s an option).

Part of the problem is that some of the shittiest companies on that list are the dominant or only provider for some types of food, medication, and sundries.