I think I kinda just don't like anything on the Debian side of Linux, including Ubuntu, Mint, and Debian itself 
@Rusty what about Proxmox?
@akikitsune Proxmox gets a pass because I don't touch the underlying OS much 
@Rusty what are your main gripes about Debian?
@akikitsune The repo packages are dated to a fault. I understand the focus on stability but it's so much in the other direction that packages can have bugs and missing features linger long past they ought to. It's less egregious on a server deployment like Proxmox, but I'd still rather opt for something like AlmaLinux for a server anyway.