MeeMar 24, 2025

How Quickly Would Elon Musk Have Been Fired If He Worked in the Private Sector?

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How Quickly Would Elon Musk Have Been Fired If He Worked in the Private Sector? - Reddthat

> That seems like a good question to pose about the person who is leading up the “Department” of Government Efficiency (DOGE). After all, it would be reasonable to expect that a government agency committed to increasing efficiency in government would go about its work in an efficient manner. It would be pretty hard to make that case about DOGE.

Show threadbarneypiccolo

It will happen, his board if directors will be forced to fire him. It’s nearly inevitable at this point.

The CEO and all board members of ANY corporation are legally obligated to maximize profits for the shareholders, and if they fail at that, the shareholders can, and will, sue the company, as well as the board members individually. They have a personal financial stake in keeping him in line, and working to grow the company.

Instead, they allowed him to partner up with the loudest anti-ev voice on the planet, then run around for months behaving like a narcissistic toddler with a chain-saw, tanking the company’s global reputation, to the point where nobody is buying Teslas, people are unloading them as fast as they can, and protesters are vandalizing amd destroying them.

All of it was easily predictable, and the CEO is supposed to be an unparalled genius, so he defintely should have been able to predict the results of his unhinged behavior.

There WILL be a shareholder lawsuit at some point, I’m sure law firms are looking into it already. The board will almost certainly have to fire him in order to be able to defend themselves from charges of negligence for letting him run wild and destroy the company image.

Mar 25, 2025 at 1:50pmWeb
Show threadJhexMar 25, 2025

The CEO and all board members of ANY corporation are legally obligated to maximize profits for the shareholders

No, they are not. I can’t believe we are still repeating that BS. If this were the case, no board would pay CEO so much when it’s clearly unjustified

nytimes.com/…/corporations-dont-have-to-maximize-…

Tesla’s board is filled by psychophants and actual musk family… They recently were pushing to pay him 56 BILLION dollars for his efforts (tall about maximising profit for shareholders…)

The time to get rid of Musk quietly was about 5 years ago. Now the harm is done, he can quit all he wants but people won’t buy these shitty cars because they are objectively inferior compared to competition, people hate Musk around the world and nobody would want Elon to benefit from his stock

Corporations Don't Have to Maximize Profits

The business judgment rule gives directors protection from judicial second-guessing about how to best serve their companies and shareholders.

Show threadbarneypiccoloMar 25, 2025

Perhaps you would be correct about a normal dispute between a CEO/Board and disgruntled shareholders who want more, but that’s not the Tesla situation.

MuskRat has been behaving recklessly, inappropriately, violently, insultingly, and worse, and the extreme negative reaction from Tesla’s current and potential market was easily predictable.

Whether the law requires that a CEO act to maximize profits, or simply manage the business in the best way possible on behalf of shareholders, MuskRat’s behavior has egregiously violated both, leaving both himself and the board greatly exposed to the possibility of a shareholder class-action suit, for any number of reasons.

With a nearly 60% drop in the stock price (which continues), and a severely damaged corporate image around the entire WORLD (which is probably unrecoverable under the current corporate leadership), both DIRECTLY attributable to his own personal behavior, it is doubtful that the company will even be in business in a couple of years, although HitlerPig will probably give him a bail out.

Show threadJhexMar 25, 2025

OK, this new take you bring is a far departure from your original “all companies must maximize profit” original claim

Having said that I still think you are mising 2 key points:

  • Musk and his circus control the vast majority of teslas shares so I doubt anyone else can actually bring a law suit against him
  • There is no rule of law in America anymore. If there was, Musk would have been in jail a while ago.
Show threadbarneypiccoloMar 25, 2025

I didn’t change anything, I just pointed out that whether you or I are correct (which is an e tirely dufferent duscussion), the situation doesn’t really change. MuskRat is still civilly responsible for the Tesla’s ongoing crash.

It doesn’t require a majority of shareholders to file a class-action lawsuit. Any group with the same issues can combine to sue. Besides, there are probably some other major shareholders who are totally out of their minds over MuskRat costing them millions of dollars with his unhinged reckless behavior. I wouldn’t be so quick to believe that they will continue to support him. I certainly wouldn’t support someone who has cost me millions so far, and whose continuing behavior is predictably likely to continue to lose my money.

Show threadJhexMar 25, 2025

Brother, the Tesla board fought to give Elon 56 Billion dollars and nobody raised an eye brow… Do you really think they can touch him now?

The best thing that would happen here is that Musk behaviour will destroy Tesla, Musk’s own power which is entirely derived from money would crumble, and THEN maybe some people would want to kick the dead horse

Show threadbarneypiccoloMar 25, 2025

A class-action lawsuit doesnt require their permission. If the Board doesn’t act to protect the company and shareholders from MuskRat’s bad behavior, they become as liable for damages as MuskRat. The smart move would be to remove him, but they are probably afraid of him, and his attack dog in the Oval.

They ignore his behavior at their own economic peril.

Show threadJhexMar 25, 2025

I know, I never said anything specific about a class action lawsuit.

My point is that Musk has been acting terribly for a LONG time and not too long ago the board was bending over backwards to gift Musk 56 billion dollars… there is no wherewithal in this company to go against Musk

Show threadfutatoriusMar 26, 2025

Musk and his circus control the vast majority of teslas shares so I doubt anyone else can actually bring a law suit against him

Being a shareholder at all is sufficient standing to sue for a corporation’s executives violating its charter.

There is no rule of law in America anymore.

Where rich people are involved, it has been severely limited since the founding of the Republic. It’s gotten worse, but it was never good.

Show threadJhexMar 26, 2025

Being a shareholder at all is sufficient standing to sue for a corporation’s executives violating its charter.

Yes but it’s harder to prove damages when a minority holder complains abd the majority claims everything is peachy

Show threadZiro427Mar 25, 2025
In light of the people selling off their teslas, I wonder how easy it would be to put a body kit or something on it so it no longer looked like a tesla?
Show threadbarneypiccoloMar 25, 2025

Possibly, but why throw good money after bad? They are already shitty vehicles that get recalled constantly (the SwastiKKKar has been recalled 8 times in less than a year), and are expensive to repair. The company is tanking, with no recovery in sight, or even appearing to be possible, and will probably be put of business in a few years, even with the inevitable bail out. Then it will become nearly impossible to find parts or repair it.

Unload that dog while you still can.

Show threadfutatoriusMar 26, 2025

The CEO and all board members of ANY corporation are legally obligated to maximize profits for the shareholders

No they are not. It depends entirely on the corporate charter, though most are set up that way. Additionally, there are non-profit and not-for-profit corporations.