innermeerkatBro, is that a hole?
GrassWhat was the original game actually shown to her that led to that video clip? Who chose the game, etc?
Meming this is totally justified though. You could easily say that about any and all entertainment media formats without even looking very hard for examples. Its just without knowing the original context I can’t help but feel the woman got the short end of the stick with whatever show that was from.
PsychadelligoatGTAV, a scene at the Vanilla Unicorn strip club specifically
It’s… A really fucking stupid thing to bitch about specifically in that game, honestly. Of course a strip club objectifies women, and of course a game about criminality and the seedy underworld will have one
John Wick is a movie about criminality and the seedy underworld, and there’s no scene where John Wick gets a lap dance. There are women who appear to be sex workers, and John Wick murders their bosses. The audience isn’t invited to participate in the objectification, the audience is invited to hate the antagonist for objectifying women and wish for justice.
There’s nothing wrong with a game about robbing banks, because most people don’t rob banks, and a video game isn’t going to give them ideas. But a video game where you pretend to be a misogynist can teach dangerous habits, because that behaviour is easy to bring out of the game.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the people sending death threats to Anita Sarkeesian for saying games should objectify women less, are the people who went on to storm the capital to try and install a fascist dictator.
Hang on, so sex work is work and we shouldn’t shame sex workers, but those who pay the sex workers for their services are gross misogynists? Gotta pick one.
That’s missing a key past of the argument, objectification. Do the game devs add women exclusively as eye candy or as interesting, complex characters? I haven’t played GTA5 so I legit don’t know.
Maybe her comment here was silly and misplaced, but I think the gaming community really has (had?) excessive misogyny. And it does tend to cater to men more than women. Look at any recent major AAA games, the top 50 best selling video games, top rated games of all time, etc. The overwhelming majority ether have a male protagonist or customizable character. Only a handful specifically have a female protagonist.
Most gamers aren’t gross misogynists, but there are plenty of ways game devs could better represent women as equals.
and there’s no scene where John Wick gets a lap dance. There are women who appear to be sex workers, and John Wick murders their bosses. The audience isn’t invited to participate in the objectification,
I do not agree that paying a woman for a lap dance is objectification if sex work is real work and should be respected. If sex work is bad and shouldn’t be respected then sure, that’d be a bad thing to pay for, but it can’t be both.
Wrong person, that was someone else that said that
Right, then I responded to them, then you responded to me responding to them, and now we’re here. You said it’s missing part of the argument but it is the argument you jumped into, so “nuh uh” is what I’m saying.
OK but your “nuh uh” didn’t address anything I added to the conversation.
Sex work good
Treating all women as just sex objects bad
In the video game, are all women just eye candy/sex appeal/sex workers?
Or do the game devs know that women have more to offer than sex and show that?
You’re reducing the argument to one action, lap dances. But the argument is about the overall attitude towards women.
Wait you think the only women in the entire game are in this one strip club?