HostEurope, a formerly European web and e-mail hosting provider acquired by GoDaddy in 2016, just informed its customers that it will move their IMAP folders and everything e-mail to Microsoft's MS365 offer.

This move does not only incur additional fees for many customers – it also raises privacy concerns.

We recommend you empty all of your IMAP folders now and move your e-mail (domains) to one of the trustworthy e-mail services listed here: https://switching.software/replace/gmail/

Trademarks used by HostEurope Group include 123-reg, Webfusion, Heart Internet, BrandFortress, Host Europe, Domainbox, Domainmonster, Domainfactory, DonHost, Sign-Up.to, velia.net and RedCoruna. Their users might also be affected.

PS: HostEurope has published the following FAQ:

#HostEurope #GoDaddy #Microsoft #MS365

Bye, Gmail

Recommended E-Mail Providers:

switching.software
To empty your IMAP folders, you can use e-mail clients such as Thunderbird or Mutt that allow you to save e-mails to local folders on your computer's hard drive. After the move, it may be necessary to expunge/purge messages marked as deleted from your IMAP folders in order to delete them permanently. In Thunderbird, this is achieved by "compacting" each folder.

@switchingsoftware

Suggest rephrasing of the first sentence for maximum clarity. Also I'd recommend to add several accounts in an e-mail client, and moving from one account to the other, instead of moving to computer then to another account, which increases the risk of losing messages.

@switchingsoftware and make sure to do a backup for Thunderbird and the mail folder.
And get a good EU based mail provider where you have enough IMAP space to move your mail. Preferably without the local step.

Host Europe's FAQ can be summarized as follows: Go to hell!

I don't want my email accounts to be migrated to Microsoft 365? What can I do?

If you do not want your email accounts to be migrated to Microsoft 365, proceed as follows.

Situation 1: You do not want email migration to Microsoft 365, but you do want hosting migration to cPanel

  • Please contact support via a KIS support request.
  • However, a solution must be found for your email accounts. You can move your emails to another solution at Host Europe or to an external provider by yourself.

Situation 2: You do not want either the email migration to Microsoft 365 or the hosting migration to cPanel

  • To avoid being migrated, cancel your package. We will then exclude your package from the migrations.
  • You can easily cancel your contract in the KIS: Product Admin – Contract Overview

@switchingsoftware I was a decade-long customer there until they moved the vservers to france in october 2015. I was a huge fan before that, I recommended them to at least four people who became customers.

When the GoDaddy acquisition was announced in 2016 I was *so* glad that I had dodged that particular bullet early.

I used to really cheer for HostEurope! During my time with them, I loved that they were using Open-Xchange. Ah, those were some great days!

@switchingsoftware

Domainfactory hatte letztes Jahr einen fast 80 Stunden langen Ausfall im Mailsystem.
Einzige Reaktion: Ja, Mei. Festenplattenfehler, kann man nix machen, schönen Tag noch…
Daß sie damit ihre SLA um fast den Faktor 10 gerissen haben, egal.

Mein Tipp: Finger weg von domainfactory und alles was mit HostEurope und Godaddy irgendwie zusammenhängt.

https://www.heise.de/news/Domainfactory-Postfachserver-am-Wochenende-ausgefallen-9988044.html

Domainfactory: Postfachserver am Wochenende ausgefallen

Bei Domainfactory gibt es seit Freitagmorgen Störungen an den Postfachservern. Die Wiederherstellung läuft und soll Montag abgeschlossen sein.

heise online

@switchingsoftware velia.net isn’t associated with Host Europe anymore

They were bought by Godaddy some time ago and are now independent again

@switchingsoftware
There might be an error on your website, it says
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@aral @schmidt_fu

Codeberg Pages seems to be in trouble: https://status.codeberg.eu/status/codeberg

Maybe another DDoS attack?

/cc @Codeberg

Codeberg Service Status

This is an overview of the Codeberg Infrastructure. Uptime stats are calculated over the past 24 hours only. <a href=https://social.anoxinon.de/@codeber

@switchingsoftware @schmidt_fu @Codeberg Ah, it’s on Codeberg pages? Given posting a link on Mastodon can be considered a mini-DDoS attack in and of itself, I wonder if that was what did it?

@aral @schmidt_fu @Codeberg

We cannot rule out this possibility at the moment.

@switchingsoftware Just asked them, if it was already April 1st. Can't imagine any small business will support this. Asked them to revert this.

... Just learning what an EPP code is and how it is used.

@switchingsoftware ...
This was not so difficult. EPP works. Goodbye HE, thx for a decade of hosting. Our relation ends at April 30th .

New hoster is cheaper and still able to offer IMAP.

@switchingsoftware How about switching emails to an excellent, steady and reliable hosting cooperative, that operates IT infrastructure as common property also in the future: Hostsharing.net @hostsharing

#Hostsharing #HostEurope #GoDaddy #Microsoft #M365

@switchingsoftware @foosel I think, even if their TOS allow it, the move is illegal. Are they doing this to get rid of small customers?

In my Host Europe package I host mailboxes for around 15 relatives, teenagers and 85 year olds. They do not know how to backup their IMAP folders locally, I cannot help all remotely. Also, I pay for email hosting already. Why should I now pay for each mailbox additionally?

@switchingsoftware

Block the move. Make it illegal. It is illegal. Enforce the law, stop this illegal sharing.

@kevinrns We are not lawyers. Perhaps @Freiheitsrechte can take on Host Europe Group?
@switchingsoftware
That's annoying. I didn't know they were acquired. They used to be pretty good ... when they were in Europe.
@etchedpixels

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#en #en #HostEurope #GoDaddy #Microsoft #MS365

In the list of recommended alternatives, I miss @hostsharing A German cooperative for web-, mail-, etc. hosting. I'm posting this from hostsharings mastodon instance. It's great. Become a member, and use it.

@switchingsoftware @cm About Fastmail in the recommended list: They operate an excellent email service with a great feature set, very good value for the price, and sensibly packaged offerings. They are highly competent people, motivated to do everything well. I have nothing but praise for what they do. If it weren't for one thing, I'd have moved all my email from my own server to them. (1/3)
They are an Australian company, operating their servers in the USA. Not only are these both Five Eyes countries, the members of a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence with little restraint in obtaining it, but also the servers are subject to the legal and practical sovereignty of the USA. This has kept me from moving all my email there before, but now, with a US government that shows little respect for the law and due process, it is even a much stronger reason. (2/3)
Everyone in Europe (and as we are talking about HostEurope, I assume we are mainly talking about European customers) should consider this and decide for themselves if this is an issue for them. It is for me, but I do regret that this excludes Fastmail as an option for me. (3/3)