Leo'Jet Ski Fuel'nardoEvery night I go to bed vowing this thread'll become more concise with less page by page screencaps, and every second of every day Sophie Campbell's stupidly gorgeous art makes a liar out of me.
Something I didn't realise until looking that page over to make sure the alt-text fit; Donnie's wearing a tool belt. Excellent touch.
Speaking of alt-text, since this has a couple of followers who use it, how am I doing with it? Any improvements you think could be made?
Would love to hear TMNT 2012 composer Sebastian Evans score Campbell's writing, especially the sort of tune he might use for the Weasel's popping up like this.
They make friends and it's great! Not coincidentally, the four standard Turtles aren't present. Do wonder about that, given how everything shakes out.
Also this issue's been a good showing for Sally. She's worried about her place in the new status quo, but she's constantly acted practically even under stress, like stopping Jen charging in and possibly ruining the kids' budding friendship. Foreshadowing!~
You're a two faced, self righteous piece of shit Old Hob and I hate you for it.
Can't get over Zana's =O face.
You ready to see why Sally, despite being sadly side-lined as this run goes on, becomes one of my favourite non-Al IDW characters?
There's a comic by Christopher Cantwell and Luca Casalanguida about the JFK assassination called "Regarding the Matter of Oswalt's Body". Buncha outsiders with espionage experience, criminal records and shady pasts are blackmailed by a US government agency for a simple mission: extract Lee Harvey Oswalt after he's shot JFK, dump a lookalike so the feds have a corpse, and smuggle the read Oswalt out of Dallis.
It's great, you should read it.
It's relevance to this thread is that the fourth issue is the cast being subjected to an almost full 22 pages length monologue from Oswalt about what a world changing fucking big shot he is, and that's what I think of when reading Hob talk about Mutant Town.
TLDR: Fuck Old Hob.
Issue #104, the cover of which makes ya think Sophie Campbell probably understood exactly the kinds of audience for her storytelling.
It's cold and there's nothing good on TV, just like Mutant Town, EEEEEEHHHHYYYYY, let's go.
Sally keeps kicking Hob's ass, very here for that.
A) Love how Campbell keeps the Weasels constantly distinct through expressions, posture and body language.
B) I empathise with Koya here, since if -I- had to live through the first hundred issues of this series I'd be done with fighting, too.
Part of why not-asshole fans slowly lost enthusiasm for this period of the comic, I think, is because it does put more of an emphasis on family and emotion. Often fighting really doesn't have much of a point or accomplish anything.
Claiming nothing really -happens- is objectively stupid, though, since we're going to have a full on riot a couple issues from now and a large part of where the book really begins to drag is when Waltz's whole Armageddon Game thing eats up a couple issues. Again, I think they really should've/should now, right now, just give Campbell her own TMNT continuity and let her do whatever.
Like these panels. The gang's first victory, as Mutant Towners, their own entities separate from the original four, rescuing the next generation of mutants from the petty mistakes of the original, and Hob fucking off for a while. What's not to like?
We've reached the Adopted Lost Urchins stage of the comic. Also, Jennika's a big Lita Ford fan.
Love how constantly Campbell keeps up a character's body language.
There he is! I like Donnie's upcoming role, Mutant Town's handyman.
Cannot get over Raph's fucking Dave Lister looking fits.
For real, though. I recall enough about the first 100 issues to know Raph's thing was helping Alopex break away from Shredder and start healing, and I'm glad that roles reversed a little with their relationship.
(For real though, Raph's fucking clothes, he looks like he should be calling Leo a smeg head, it's amazing)
For those of you who have lives and didn't memorise the title of ever single piece of James Newtron Lewis' 1990 score:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmJEr1M7p3M&ab_channel=Audio-Video-Retro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmJEr1M7p3M&ab_channel=Audio-Video-Retro
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1990 - Message From Splinter
Wasn't sure about including these panels, but what the hell, I like Raph and Jenny's dynamic. The bros fighting is old hat and Raph does need someone who understands him well enough not to put up with his crap. The older sibling dynamic you can't really give him and Leo.
♫Ninja Turtles mending fences♫
Seriosuly, Campbell and/or Lawson drawing the Ninja Turtles moving through beautiful rendered cities, sewers and countrysides. Would be the most gorgeous comic on the rack.
Love that the first thing Leo does is try to tell the others Mikey needs help. Great big brother energy.
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Well -someone- has to write the TMNT equivalent of The Coyote Gospel, may as well be me.
Campbell's art is seriously the most personality and atmosphere these books have ever had.
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Just...yeah? After a lot of rushed looking or generic cape comic art, IDW TMNT is being made by someone who cares about things like clothes, postures, attitudes, what side characters are doing, even making sure to include details like pets sleeping by the fire. This is the exact opposite of everything people kept telling me was supposed to be great about these comics, -that's- great.
God, and what's happened to what little progress we've made here in the real world
The Klunk stuff is slightly undermined (EDIT: for me) by the implication it was Saki who found him and brought him back. It's a decent use of the character but only because IDW insists he be there and having a redemption storyline, any of those panels of him standing outside the farmhouse in the dark would've accomplished the same thing.
This is maybe gonna become a Transformers/Marvel thread for a bit. Sorry...?
The short version is, Redemption Arc Shredder's got nothing on Redemption Arc Megatron. A big part of why being that, even for all James Robertson's creative cheating with his version character, you are allowed to believe it's not really a question and that it isn't possible. Handy Dostoevsky quote at the bottom there.
Actually, no, let's get the important stuff out of the way first. The Turtles finally settling on a plan in a post Splinter and Shredder world. "A clan anyone can be part of."
And after years of IDW giving the team more soldiers and other martial artists, with the only non combat role being tech support, I am more than down with the idea of the Turtles opening a dojo and letting non-Designated Special People learn how to defend themselves.
And giving them a community of actual people to join, not just surround themselves with fellow fighters.
And for all the editorial mucking about that's gonna make the book drag, I do like Campbell's honesty about the difficulties of community, how centres do not inherently hold, and that she also never let's it get in the way of the joy of a community.
So, these guys. Why I think they're the holy trinity of Marvel villains and why IDW Megatron is closer to them than IDW Shredder is. Because we share their rage, but they're irreparably shaped by the tragedies that made them. And the most tragic thing about them is that they -could- be the heroes of their stories, but for various reasons they're still the villains of everyone else's.
It's not just the tragedies that shape them, Killmonger and Doom's traumatic childhoods, to say nothing of Magneto's, but I think you need an element of this All Star Superman moment to really make it work.
All these men have every reason to hate the status quo and burn it to the ground. But that's as far as it goes, for Doom especially. "You could have saves the world YEARS ago if it mattered to you." Which highlights what -is- important to Luthor.
Magneto's the big example of this for me, because of where Chris Claremont was initially taking his arc, complete with renouncing his ways and leading the X-Men. An arc that was ultimately short circuited because Roger Stern really hated the idea and wrote a miniseries to undo it, but hey.
And this stuff was the basis for X-Men '97, the biggest Marvel anything of this century since the first Avengers movie.
And thing of it is, I prefer '97 Mags a lot more. We never doubt that he's right, his enemies are bigots, but he starts off being wonderfully smarmy when he assumes command, claims live on TV at the UN that he's trying to be better (and it's a threat to humanity, don't give him cause to regress) and ends the show doing something that will wipe out all life on Earth, because his people were murdered for a second time.
It's impossible to condone this version of Magneto's actions, but it's impossible to condemn him. He has every right to his rage, his rage does not give him the right to do what he does. He doesn't have to keep his hands clean of his bigoted enemies' blood, but it's impossible to declare war and not bloody your hands.
Versus IDW Shredder's origin in secret history of the Foot Clan, where Saki is seen as some kind of pre-destined demon child by his superstitious clan and this is a reasonable assumption because superstitions are real in this world. But also you're supposed to feel sorry for the wee fella, and maintain that feeling as you watch his centuries old adult self be gleefully evil.
Speaking of mutants, y'know how '97 has at least two X-Men join Magneto because they're righteously (and rightfully) furious at what the world has done to them? That's the exact opposite of Shredder and Kitsune using magic to turn Leo to the dark side.
Shredder doesn't have a legit position beyond "Evil!", and so Leo has to be cultishly brainwashed. He can't hear Shredder's point of view, realise he agrees with it, then discover what's screwed up about and reject it, but leave knowing that he's susceptible to bad shit.
Killmonger and Doom are more similar to each other, and arguably simpler than Mags, because they're tragic fairy tale characters. Doom was hunted from birth because the old world Europe he was born into hates travellers, Eric was kidnapped by people paling around with Klaw, a confirmed white supremacist. Both lost everything, both have every reason to hate the parts of the world that hate them.
But neither stop there.