How do I put on weight without feeling terrible?

https://lemmy.world/post/27264570

How do I put on weight without feeling terrible? - Lemmy.World

To preface, I kind of know the answer to this. I’ve put on weight before but I was hoping to get advice on how to go about better/more efficiently. I guess my question is really: what are healthy high calorie foods I can use to put on weight? I’ve been underweight pretty much my entire life. I don’t think I have a chronic eating disorder, but there are times where I just don’t want to eat. I believe, however, that’s actually not my largest issue. I’m potentially too health conscious. I’m vegetarian by accident (So I dated this girl right…) mostly, and as a result I eat a lot of nutrient-dense but calorically-low foods. I’m currently sitting just under 56kg (125 lbs) at 180cm (5’11ish). My plan currently is to just eat more often, and slowly ramp up how much I eat at each meal. About 6 years back I managed to hit 77kg by eating 4/5 large meals per day but then lost it all over the years by being sedentary and losing my appetite.

Ai says…

Gaining weight in a healthy and sustainable way typically involves focusing on nutritious food choices, consistent eating habits, and an appropriate balance of exercise. Here are a few tips:

Nutrition

  • Increase Caloric Intake: Aim to consume more calories than you burn. Focus on nutrient-dense foods like whole grains, nuts, seeds, avocados, dairy products, and lean meats.
  • Eat Frequently: Try eating 5–6 smaller meals throughout the day, rather than 3 big ones.
  • Include Protein: Add protein-rich foods like eggs, tofu, chicken, fish, beans, and lentils to support muscle growth.
  • Healthy Fats: Incorporate healthy fats from sources like olive oil, peanut butter, and fatty fish.
  • Drink Calories: Smoothies or milkshakes with fruits, protein powder, and nut butter can be a great calorie boost.
  • Lifestyle

  • Strength Training: Muscle-building exercises can ensure that the weight gained is more muscle than fat.
  • Minimize Stress: Chronic stress can affect appetite and metabolism. Focus on relaxation and mindfulness techniques.
  • Get Adequate Sleep: Rest is crucial for recovery and healthy.
  • A big part of the reason AI isn’t useful here is that I already have all the base-level knowledge that it can give me. I understand I need to increase my calorie intake, and I could do so by eating more frequently or larger meals. In fact, I addressed most of this advice in the post already.

    AI isn’t super great at delving into the nitty-gritty specific examples of “this is a high calorie food that fits into your specific diet”

    It confirmed that you need protein and provided some examples. If you want examples it’s easy to ask. It sounds like you have some diet restrictions that you’ll need to work out.

    You can also see if weed improves your appetite.

    You need protein

    Promise I get enough protein. Probably more than most meat eaters, due to the fact that I constantly think about it. I don’t know my exact numbers daily but I consume a lot of whey-protein. I eat the fake meats, tofu and all of that. I do my due diligence. I even make sure to hit my daily vitamins on average per week. I even smoke weed too to help create an appetite sometimes!!

    Basically, you’re repeating things I already know. I told you I already knew them when I posted, and you repeated them anyway with an Appeal to Authority with the AI slop. You didn’t stop to consider that perhaps this person actually wants the question they asked answered, and instead answered a much more basic question.

    Argument from authority - Wikipedia

    I don’t know my exact numbers daily but I consume a lot of whey-protein

    Hey, different person here and also with a totally unrelated point to what you two were talking about haha

    But I train people in the gym and it’s incredibly common for people to be massively under eating protein while also firmly believing that they must be getting enough.

    I’m not saying you are! But the pattern is always the same, where my clients will list a few foods with a “protein reputation” and sort of hand wave away the actual number. Then when we actually tally it up they’re shocked to learn they aren’t even at 30% of their daily goal.

    Again not trying to insinuate that you’ve been doing anything wrong, just wanted to let you know that that’s a thing I see happen a lot. It’s worth going through a few typical days and calculating your actual number. I’m a vegetarian too fwiw, typically I suggest going like 10% higher than the general recommendation for meat eaters

    No actually you’re absolutely right. I know with certainty that I should consume more protein as I put weight on. I haven’t been tracking it because I had a pretty high fat percentage when I picked up this new job so I’ve been allowing a bit of that to melt away.

    Been here for 2 months now, and now starting to build the weight back which is why I’m asking for some specific advice on high calorie foods. In the meantime, I intend to start tracking my macros and hitting some strength training on the weekend (my job is a lot of cardio).

    I’ve been taking down at least one or two protein shakes daily, and making sure to do a lot of my vitamins and protein on the weekends with mostly carbs and sugar during the work week for fuel. Once I round up my numbers I’ll adjust and create a specific diet plan

    Nice! Yeah the only thing I would recommend, especially if you do pick up some strength training, would be to try and balance things through the week and not try to load the majority of your protein into the weekend.

    Resistance training puts your body into a “muscle building state”, which will last for like, a couple days after you workout. You also want there to already be protein in your system before you hit the gym.

    So even if you’re only strength training on the weekend, it works out that you’re gonna want the high protein on Monday and Tuesday as well, and also pick it up again by at least Thursday’s dinner. Which is basically just every day of the week at that point haha

    No pressure of course, just my 2c based on experience getting people going in the gym. It’s more than a night and day difference between the ones who take the protein seriously and the ones who brush it off. I actually emphasize this far more with my clients than the actual training itself haha

    Ah - I don’t have a 5/2 schedule so it’s more balanced than it appears at first. I protein load for 3 or 4 days of each week, then expend those nutrient for the other 3 or 4 days. I still try to hit maintenance protein on my workdays, but struggle with my appetite due to the momentum of working. I do a lot of liquid calories to prevent massive weight swings
    Can you give a source as to what is enough protein?

    FDA blanket recommends 50g/day for adults. This is the value used on nutrition labels throughout the US

    Other countries I believe recommend 0.8g/kg of bodyweight. For people building muscle, the current recommendation is 1.2-1.6g/kg bodyweight (or 0.5-0.7g per pound of bodyweight)

    Daily Value on the Nutrition Facts Label

    The Nutrition and Supplement Facts labels on packaged foods and dietary supplements have been updated to make it easier for you to make informed choices.

    U.S. Food and Drug Administration
    The fact that the AI couldn’t work around the dietary restrictions kind of shows why it’s worthless.

    I didn’t copy/paste in the question.

    Food is about the only thing I’ve found ai to be helpful at, and even then it’s not that great.

    I didn’t copy/paste in the question.

    Then what was the point?

    Why reply to anything?

    But you didn’t reply to anything. You asked an AI a different question from the OP and then copy-pasted the response.

    It was essentially spam.

    Nice work detective.

    I’m vegetarian

    Stop that.

    I’ve tried a few times. It kinda fuckin sucks to transition back to meat
    Yes, changing dietary habits sucks. But a healthy approach is rarely easy.
    Right but it’s also entirely unnecessary. It’s possible to put on weight and consume plenty of protein without meat. The lightest I’ve ever been was while I was still eating meat, and the heaviest I’ve ever been was while vegetarian.
    You’re holding your own well, but I just want to encourage you not to let the dude bro gym bros talk you into eating meat if you don’t want to
    It doesn’t have to be meat. You can eat eggs, cheese, and maybe fish? Salmon is my go-to. Milk products such as cream and yoghurt. Nuts! Maybe seafood, such as mussels, clams, crab, prawns?

    Unfortunately I stopped eating fish back around 2020. All plant based these days except for eggs and dairy. Wouldn’t suggest it to anyone, this diet is achievable but difficult.

    Nuts and everything else are a great land. I have to be careful with cheese though. Not enough fiber to balance it out and my bathroom breaks start getting annoying.

    First of all, how old are you. You may not have to do anything at all when you agree in your 30s just from natural changes.

    I had this same struggle, and I started construction work when I was 25. I had a fightclub physique for a time, and then when I transitioned to office work I gained 20-30lbs.

    I’m doing ok now.

    You may not have to do anything at all

    I’m not gonna sit around and wait for my metabolism to slow down. I’d rather put in the work to fix and maintain my weight and then readjust as it slows down

    If you’re just under your calorie target, you can add high calorie snacks or toppings to gain weight. Do you like nuts and seeds? Avacados? Olive oil? Cheese?

    You can buy or make lots of nice high fat nut snacks, roast them with your favourite spices if you like flavour or just a little salt if you prefer blander stuff. Snack on them throughout the day, and schedule times to have a portion of you’re not naturally a snacker. Sprinkle them over salads or rice bowls or whatever.

    Dip nice bread in olive oil and vinegar (with some zatar or other spice mixes if your like). Shallow fry things in olive oil - take slices of nutrious but calorie light vegetables, dip in a simple tempura batter of cornflour and water, then fry in olive oil. Crispy, fresh, delicious and lots of calories.

    So you eat desert? Start having nice fruit with heavy cream poured over the top. Use cream in sauces or add to mashed potatoes, vegetable gratins, etc.

    Nuts and seeds? Avocados? Olive oil? Cheese?

    Good calls. I do avocados a lot and have been ramping up my oil use lately. I used to do a lot of nuts but have stopped recently due to bits getting stuck in my tonsils (I really gotta get them fuckers removed. Big af and cavernous for no reason)

    Do you eat desert?

    I don’t do a lot of super sugary things like cakes or candy. I used to have really poor dental hygiene which made those foods physically painful to eat and even now I don’t choose them often. Fruits with creams are a great idea though, and yesterday I actually had to slam some chocolate because I could feel my blood sugar getting low lol

    Research well before getting your tonsils removed. They’re not vital, but they’re an important immunity center.

    I’m aware. I’m also aware that my family has had issues with their tonsils for several generations - especially as they get older. I’d rather bite it in the ass when before they cross the line into harming instead of helping. I’m gonna talk to an orthodontist or whatever and get their opinion on when would be best to do that.

    I appreciate the reminder to be diligent

    Peanut butter is rather calorie dense. On sandwiches, as a dip, in sauces, or by the spoonful. Potatoes are quite nutritious and especially delicious when mixed with things like cream, butter, etc.
    Organic chunky peanut butter is addictive by the spoonful
    Should do potatoes more often. I really like peanut butter but haven’t kept it around in a while, I could definitely do with some more PB&Js. I do peanut sauces on my noodles quite often as well
    You need to integrate the food with a workout regimen to build some muscle.

    This might sound weird, but it’s delicious if you like peanut butter: mix it with some high-fat, plain Greek yogurt and it’s divine.

    I also sometimes sprinkle some fibre buds or chopped pecans on top 🥵

    You could try a nutritional supplement like carbohydrates or protein;

    6 Best Weight Gain Supplements

    While diet and exercise are important for gaining weight, certain supplements may also help. This article examines types of supplements that may be effective for gaining weight, as well as 6 product recommendations to support your weight gain efforts.

    Healthline

    I’ve been meaning to pick up some Mass Gainer for this reason. Right now, I’ve been drinking those breakfast shake thingies as snacks because they’re like 300 calories. Only issue, they’re pretty nutrient-dense so they sit heavy in my stomach.

    Supplements will be getting a more thorough look-through once I have a bit more liquid on hand to do so

    If it’s only 300 calories, it’s probably a diet shake and packed full of fiber to make you feel full. You’re better off switching to normal milkshakes.

    As you’re vegetarian, I would get really into dahl cooked with ghee. It’s incredibly tasty and has so many calories.

    Packed full of fiber

    Damn I never even thought to check that. Normal milkshakes will be the future.

    Dahl cooked with ghee

    To the archives! There’s learning to be done (I have no idea what that is so I’m gonna go look it up lol)

    You could get into baking bread! It doesn't require much effort or money, it's interesting (to me, at least, your mileage may vary on this point), fresh bread is absolutely delicious, and bread also happens to have a heap of calories in it. Wheat didn't get to be one of humanity's two all time top sources of calories by being weightwatchers-approved

    Bread is great! I also do pastas a lot for the same reasons. Thankfully, my sister loves to bake and maintains a batch of sourdough which I’ll definitely be trying to steal off of periodically.

    I just moved into my new place and haven’t had time or tools to test my oven yet. I also am still adjusting to a new schedule, and my partner is going to need to adjust to a new schedule soon so we’ll see how much baking we manage to do in our household. Store bought bread will have to make due in the case of a lack of baking

    Pastas, oils, lentils, nuts, legumes, and beans ig.

    But do conaider that muscle will be a more sustainable form of weight maintenance for your metabolism. Also, protein poweders are very high in calories.

    My sympathies. I will be watching the responses, I’m 170cm and I’ve never broken past 55kg, no matter how hard I’ve tried… I’m vegan, but I had the same problem long before I went vegan.

    My body seems intent on pinning my weight to this value. Even in periods of high sedentary lifestyle or high exercise, I’ve always been between 53 and 55 kilograms. My fitness watch does report other metrics improving (VO2 max) but my weight stays the same 🤷🏻‍♀️

    I have a naturally lean body type. I put on quite a lot of good weight by doing strength training over several months. I supplemented my diet with a protein shake of which I drank half before training and the remaining after it.

    Try it! It’ll take time but you’ll gain weight in a healthy manner and feel good about it.

    Lift weights and eat proteins. Like you can get just supplement with pea protein isolate. Has the same effect as protein from meat and you don’t need to eat massive amounts of veggies to hit that target protein intake. For fats you can eat macadamia nuts and pecan trough out the whole day. Like macadamia nuts are about 75% fat.

    Agreed with everything here but be careful about which protein powder you choose as some plant based powders have been found to contain higher levels of toxic metals.

    See: pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7509468/ realsimple.com/unsafe-levels-of-lead-and-cadmium-…

    A human health risk assessment of heavy metal ingestion among consumers of protein powder supplements

    Keywords: Protein powder, Supplements, Risk assessment, Heavy metals

    PubMed Central (PMC)

    My problem was probably similar to yours. I just don’t get hungry. In university, I would have some oatmeal for breakfast and cruise through until about 10pm and get some fast food, too often.

    My solution was to start working out. I saw my colleagues were all carrying fat bellies and I didn’t want to end up that way. But I also knew that if I wanted to work out, I needed to fuel my body. So every day I just plan my diet like building with Lego, filling out the macros and calories and eat it whether I want to or not. For some people, that’s not a good approach from a mental health perspective, but it works for me.

    Start a workout plan (strong lifts 5x5 is a simple starting point without much fluff) and get an app (I strongly suggest MacroFactor - it’s excellent) that tells you how much to eat, and follow it. I went from 58kg to 77kg in a year, and after dieting the somewhat excessive fluffy parts back off I landed at 70kg and looking pretty shredded.

    As a vegetarian, you probably don’t need to worry nearly as much about getting fibre and vegetables, but it can be harder just because animal products are nutritionally dense. Picture 600 calories of broccoli. Now picture a hamburger. It’s an unfair comparison, but the point is the calorie density is way higher.

    Add more oil or even lard to your healthy meals and slowly increase consumption.

    Workout bro’s use mass gain powder. I’m fat so I’ve never tried it, but I assume it’s protein powder and probably sugar and maybe some fats.

    Why? The diet you describe is one of the only proven ways to extend a healthy life span. If you following a cron diet from early on you could live to record old age vs the populace if you keep it up.
    Yeah my diets fine. That’s why I’m not asking for a diet change, I’m asking for some specific food examples that fit into my diet
    cron diet though is calorie restriction with optimal nutrition. adding calories would take away from the longevity effect walfords saw in mice, monkeys, and the good results from biosphere 2.
    No I know what you’re getting at but I’m like going too far with it right now. I have almost nothing to keep my body going day to day lmao I need to have at least a little bit of life on my bones
    ok yeah. makes sense. I do know though people who follow the diet can't heavily excersise with so few calories.
    Protein supplements with weight training and other strength building exercises.