RandAlThorDow tumbles 900 points, Nasdaq drops 4% as market sell-off intensifies on recession fears: Live updates
MyMotherIsAHamsterBut I thought Trump was going to make the economy great again /s 🤣
DestideiT BiDeN’S EcoNMY! /j
empireOfLove2Looks like I might have made the right choice keeping my non-401k savings out of a market index fund for now.
Not unless you’re retiring soon. You want to buy when things are low.
That’s why I said “for now”. I was mulling buying in after the election when corporate interests were riding high on a “pro business” President. But I didn’t. Now I have that cash free to buy in when we hit the bottom of the slump, if there is a bottom…
There have been studies showing that just dollar cost averaging is a better strategy then trying to time the market using market sentiment for long term gains.
While thats true in the real long run during stable times, that also assumes there are not overt outside pressures forcing the market in one direction.
Trump does not bring stable times and is actively sabotaging economic stability.
trying to look at the positive side, some house market value correction would be nice
Not if the Fed steps in and bails out Trump with big cuts.
talThe TCJA passed in Trump’s first term. It cut the mortgage interest deduction.
Mortgage interest deduction for newly purchased homes (and second homes) was lowered from total loan balances of $1 million under current law to $750,000. Interest from home equity loans (aka second mortgages) is no longer deductible, unless the money is used for home improvements.
The mortgage interest deduction is a tax break for homeowners, and Trump Term 1 saw that get cut. One would expect that cut to generally apply downwards pressure on house prices, since it makes it more-expensive to borrow money to buy a house.
If one assumes that one could use that as a guidepost as to policy during a second term, maybe that’ll continue.
kagis
doeren.com/…/president-trumps-proposed-tax-plans
To that end, GOP lawmakers in the U.S. House of Representatives have compiled a 50-page document that identifies potential avenues they may take, as well as how much these tax and other fiscal changes would cost or save.
To help generate savings, the GOP document proposes making changes to various tax breaks, such as:
- The mortgage interest deduction. Suggestions include eliminating the deduction or lowering the current $750,000 limit to $500,000.
Sounds like it. So that could push prices of houses downwards.
I haven’t been following the situation there, so this is just a quick skim, mind.
EDIT: I’d also add that some of Trump’s policies may have dramatic increases on house prices, depending on what he actually does at any given point in time; he’s not really one for providing clear guidance, and even when he does, one can’t very well take his statements at face value. Two potentially relevant factors include:
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Trade disputes with Canada. The US gets a lot of its lumber from Canada, and North American homes are typically wood-framed. If lumber becomes more expensive, that will drive up the materials cost of construction of new homes.
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Illegal immigration. If Trump actually has a significant impact on the illegal immigrant population, it will increase labor costs in construction, as construction makes use of a lot of illegal immigrant labor. That will drive up the labor cost of construction of new homes. My personal take is that most of Trump on immigration is political theater for domestic politics, but it’s worth keeping in mind.
So it’s hard to judge what factors might dominate.
I think he’s doing this deliberately. Encourage people to sell, so his buddies can scoop up stocks at low prices.
Magisteryup, I’d buy apple or microsoft or nvidia because they are going down now but will go up certainly in 1 or 2 days or even weeks/months. Except tesla, this one will go down and down and down for days/weeks/months, tesla stock is super toxic, dump all of it.
1984I agree and I bought Nvidia. There will be a bounce up soon.
This is intentional. The billionaires are salivating waiting in the wings to buy up as much as possible when the prices are low.
Billionaries just short the stocks and make tons on the way down as well.
Surely mortgage interest rates will follow right? Right? Yeah, right…
That’s based on inflation and with the tariffs I’ve got bad news regarding inflation…
My GIC came due and I was considering mutual funds, the bank employee (in those services not like a random one) even said now may not be the best time to do that due to the way markets are in flux. Like they make money if I put it into mutual funds. Unless she just didn’t want to help me shrug that’s sort of a possibility since they didn’t call for our previous appointment when my last one was due. Least it’s making more than my bank account I guess but this seems a bit more down than usual too, mean that’s usually a good time to buy but who knows when they manipulate it up? Not us regular folk, who have more to lose when they absolutely tank it before it makes gains and a pittance because I chose the wrong one.
Also I’m sure I made the incorrect choice, you’re welcome to tell me how badly I’ve chosen. I used to play RPG games, in D&D I rolled a 1 for attack and 20 for ability check twice in 4 rolls, I always have the worst luck. Go to slots and see my buddy with a bucket of coins when mine ran out in as many tries as my coinage allowed. So if I chose to buy the markets would suck longer lol.
Did trump just set the new speed run for a Republican ruining the economy after a Democrat fixed it?
CharlesDarwinTo hear him and his apparatchiks tell it, he was handed a DISASTROUS economy and we can all expect it to take a while for little d to fix it?
As if we cannot see with our own eyes that the economy he was handed was outstanding and his tariffs are the cause of these crashes?
This stuff reads like it was issued from the Ministry of Truth in 1984…
Sorry to anyone having to retire right now
CorkyskogWell two thirds or more of their portfolio should be in bond markets if they are close to retirement.