Taking a moment to affirm reality:

In English, the words "gender" and "sex" are synonyms.

If you are in a situation you need to decide whether to write "gender" or "sex": write "gender". If you write "sex", there is a risk of it being ambiguous whether you meant copulation.

If someone says anything different from the above, this means one of two things:
- They took a Women's Studies course between exactly 2005 and 2007 and overly internalized something the teacher said then. Or
- They're fash

@mcc i did the women's studies thing in what i would describe as "extremely egg behavior"
@nora i view it as a sort of compromise position people, probably mostly cis people, fiddled with for awhile and then the "genderbread man" dropped and everyone was like oh no. oh no what have we done everybody backpedal

@mcc @nora wait wait this is new information to me (both the first post in the thread, and this one, which... i had to google "genderbread man" just now), and uh...

now i feel like i missed a reading assignment (or three).

at the moment i can't recall where i first read about this distinction (circa 2015 or so), but... it definitely wasn't a right-wing outlet...?

though, now that i look at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex–gender_distinction

...it does seem like some of the citations are a little dated.

Sex–gender distinction - Wikipedia

@JamesWidman @nora Do not worry about the genderbread man. It's just nonsense. It's just a meme that wasn't very good.

@mcc @nora ok but the bit about the sex/gender distinction being fash is kind of concerning, because either there's been inconsistent messaging about this in recent years, or the WHO is fash:

https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

...and before today, i didn't get the impression that the WHO is trying to be fash...?

(though, i have to admit that i was very slow to understand gender dysphoria, so it's very possible that i missed some change, in the past 10-ish years, about how people talk about gender/sex.)

Gender and health

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@JamesWidman @nora I need to go do laundry so i can't really continue this conversation. But i'd like to note i started with "people using this distinction are either fash, or taking an outdated set of political feints from the 00s gender theory community way too literally" and all you heard was "are fash".

I do not feel qualified to evaluate whether the WHO is a transphobic institution on short notice on a friday evening

@JamesWidman “because either there's been inconsistent messaging about this in recent years, or the WHO is fash”

it’s the first thing

@mcc @nora unfortunately a great many people are still pushing that view
@dangerdyke @nora @mcc i just saw the genderbread man in a professional development thing a couple weeks ago (but to the presenter's credit they did not present it uncritically by any means)