commanderMar 7, 2025

How would Ukrainians react to their own citizens saying they should surrender?

https://lemmings.world/post/22132953

How would Ukrainians react to their own citizens saying they should surrender? - Lemmings.world

It’s not looking good, and it doesn’t really make sense to fight a losing war. How do the Ukrainian people go about even discussing surrender among themselves? I’d imagine any mention of it would be met with hostilities, perhaps even violence. It’s a shame because that lack of reasonable discussion can directly influence how many people die that could’ve otherwise been saved.

Show threadcommander
I’m actually afraid to even make this post, because I predict talking even about Ukraine surrendering is enough to get me censored.
Mar 7, 2025 at 2:57pmWeb
Show threadsupernight52Mar 7, 2025

No, it’s just a dumb point to make.

“We should just surrender our lives and culture to a corrupt plutocracy that lives next door, right? Russia has shown in the past that they will live up to any peace agreement we sign, so we should just give up!”

There is no conversation where this idea flies when the people are actively fighting for their homes, friends, and families against a regime of idiocy like Putin.

Show threadcommanderMar 7, 2025
Really? Discussing surrendering in a losing war is a dumb point to make?
Show threadsupernight52Mar 7, 2025
When your surrender is as good as signing a death warrant for many of your friends and family that have been resisting for years now- yes.
Show threadcommanderMar 7, 2025
Do you think Russians would mass-execute all Ukrainians if they won the war?
Show threadsupernight52Mar 7, 2025
Yes, without question or pause.
Show threadCarmakaziMar 7, 2025
Every single Ukrainian who has so much as spit-shined a boot for the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be thrown in a labor camp indefinitely. The only reason I could see this not being the case is if the Russians cannot logistically handle that internment.
Show threadcommanderMar 7, 2025

That’s a fair assessment to make.

Even if that were the case, wouldn’t it make more sense for Ukrainians to flee than die in a war that won’t be won?

Show threadsupernight52Mar 7, 2025
No- it is their home. Just because some dumbass sets up camp on your front porch, is stealing your food, harassing your friends and family and beats the shit out of you any time you leave- doesn’t mean you’d leave your house. You’d fight/beat/kill the person claiming that the porch is rightfully theirs.
Show threadcommanderMar 7, 2025
I’d only do that if I thought I had a good chance at winning.
Show threadsupernight52Mar 7, 2025
Sweet, so if I want a free house I should just show up at yours! Thanks!
Show threadcommanderMar 7, 2025
Lol. I can tell you’re the kind of person to pick and choose what you want to hear.
Show threadsupernight52Mar 7, 2025
Yet, you’re just constantly pushing defeatist propaganda. You’re delusional.
Show threadcommanderMar 7, 2025

Not really. The truth isn’t propaganda.

You just don’t like what’s being said so you’re trying to paint it as such.

I’m going to ignore you now because it’s clear you’re only arguing with your emotions. Logic and reasoning don’t apply.

Goodbye.

Show threadsupernight52Mar 7, 2025
lol what a fool you are- hiding behind your literal Russian propaganda and claiming others argue with their emotions.
Show threadrahMar 7, 2025

in a losing war

What makes you think it’s a losing war?