If r/conservative ever wonders how astroturfing becomes a thing in their highly curated community just look at the quality of stuff that gets elevated. Anyone can write this tripe shit.

https://lemmy.world/post/26365848

If r/conservative ever wonders how astroturfing becomes a thing in their highly curated community just look at the quality of stuff that gets elevated. Anyone could write this tripe shit. - Lemmy.World

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As someone else said, that sub is a few hundred mentally ill people responding to a bunch of bots designed to instigate stupid people.

As opposed to Lemmy which is a majority mentally ill people responding to a bunch of other mentally ill people and patting themselves on the back all day?

You guys are just two sides of the same mentally ill coin.

An echo chamber is an echo chamber no matter what color paint you put on the walls.

And you’re one of us.

I am most certainly not one of you.

Nor am I one of them.

I was very careful with my words. I didn’t say all of Lemmy. I said a majority. I do not consider myself part of the majority on this website.

So you’re some sort of voyeur who likes to watch these kind of people so you can pretend to be superior?

Weird hobby, but I won’t yuck your yum. Carry on.

…no? I enjoy having conversations with people I don’t necessarily agree with.

Why do you guys always assume I’m doing it to feed some sort of superiority complex? Are y’all just telling on yourselves at this point? It’s such a common accusation that I have to wonder at this point.

I’m here because I enjoy this format of conversation and content, but I was banned from reddit. I wouldn’t be here if I hadn’t been banned from reddit.

Why do we assume that? Because you were being a dick in the comment I replied to. That’s not a pleasant conversation.

I can see why you were banned, if you think this is a conversation.

Who said anything about requiring it to be a pleasant conversation? Last time I checked a disagreement can still be a conversation.
I didn’t say you weren’t conversing. I’m saying your style of conversation is why people judge you. That was what you asked, no?
I honestly don’t know anymore. I have a lot of different people calling me an idiot in different threads. I feel like I sometimes get them mixed up lol.

An echo chamber is an echo chamber no matter what color paint you put on the walls.

Echo chambers have varying degrees of harm. They are merely a group of like-minded individuals. This says little of the objective truth of their ideas.

Yeah I don’t care what specific degree of echo chamber it is. I think all echo chambers are inherently bad for those inside at all times.
If your opinions or ideas are liked by the majority of people. It doesn’t mean you’re in an echo chamber, it means you have shitty ideals and opinions. Want that to change? Then change your fucking mind and open yourself to new perspectives. Otherwise, go to Truth or X where mentally ill people and bots can agree with your garbage takes.

The irony of you saying that because you think that the majority of people like your opinions and ideals. The majority on Lemmy for sure. The majority in all the various echo chambers and bubbles you have created for yourselves? Absolutely.

But out there in reality? No lol.

You people always think of everything so black and white all the goddamn time. There are gradients to it. Most people are somewhere in the grey.

You people always think of everything so black and white all the goddamn time. There are gradients to it. Most people are somewhere in the grey.

The fucking irony in you saying this.

-Cries about echo chamber. -Gets schooled. -“STop seEinG thiNgS bLAck and WhiTe” while simultaneously seeing this black and white.

Fuck outta here bro.

Considering I have them tagged as a musk apologist already, clearly theyre either an asshole or a troll. I give people a chance by tagging them first and blocking if I see them again stirring shit
Then you have me tagged incorrectly lol. I fuckin can’t stand that idiot.
As somone how has a mental illness, what’s going on now?
I’m glad you’re on here doing something else, like taking big Ls down in the comments.

Bro people have been following me around and down voting everything I say regardless if it’s something they agree with since the day I got here.

You really think I give a shit about “taking Ls?”. Y’all can claim youre dunking on me allllll day. Doesn’t change how bad of an echo chamber this website is or how batshit insane the majority of the users are.

Bro people have been following me around and down voting everything

You sure? Because your entire comment history is about going against the grain and endlessly complaining about “you people”. Tbh, you don’t sound exactly friendly.

You really think I give a shit about “taking Ls?”

Clearly not with the endless quarreling lol Could it be a personality disorder? Not being mean, it’s a genuine question, having been diagnosed myself and having had worked through things

Doesn’t change how bad of an echo chamber this website is

The absence of a large conservative user base does not necessarily make it an echo chamber. If anything, the conservatives around here act just like you picking fights with everyone, but also post tons of misinformation in typical conservative fashion. Literally the only ones. You’re essentially asking us diners why they’re such cucks for not taking a plop of shit to our dinner plate and blaming us for poor diets. Like, c’mon, dude. Do you understand what you’re asking for? How can you be so apologetic to venomous conservative antics?

And before you accuse me of being another monkey in a chamber, consider that I spent 15+ years arguing with dissenting, hard-headed voices online in all types of diverse forums, including conservative and conspiracy groups. And after all that, I’m done with that mind-numbing shit having to explain basic aspects of life to people who flunked out of school. If Lemmy is an occasional echo chamber but at least rubs their braincells together and still believes in integrity, then so be it. I’m happy I don’t need to interact with stupid often. Lemmy is sophisticated and self-aware enough of its own perils for the simple fact that it’s largely educated. You’re not the first to notice or raise your points, nor will you be the last. But at least walk two moons in our shoes before you descend with derision and judgement as to why we’re here in the first place. We’ve been there, we’ve done it, and nothing good came out of it. Stop pretending you know the answers to problems we don’t have.

Not my entire comment history. I do occasionally say things that are the prevailing opinion on this website and even those things are downvoted lol. Not like the fake Internet points matter anyway, but it does prove my point.

Not a personality disorder. I don’t always intend to start arguments (I understand that many of my opinions will inherently start arguments given the people around), but am happy to argue with people if that’s what they want to do. If you actually look at my comment history you will also see plenty of situations where I am being helpful or talking about non-political things just fine.

I think you might be aware of the degree of echo chamber that Lemmy is, but most users here absolutely do not have an ounce of outside perspective on anything being discussed here.

but most users here absolutely do not have an ounce of outside perspective

I wouldn’t be so sure of this, at least not with the current user base. Most Lemmings are painfully aware, just like they’re painfully aware of propaganda, bias, misinformation and all that matters. Those are all actively discussed all the time in many forms. For example, were you here for the Media Bias Fact Check bot debacle? It was centered around the role of fact checking unintentionally perpetuating biases. You can’t ask for a better hallmark of a considerate, educated and actively concerned user base.

Like I said before, there have been many other commenters before pointing out how Lemmy sometimes feels like an echo chamber because it can be of your only concern is excluding the right. But is it really an echo chamber if you look at the other side of the political spectrum? We have anywhere from moderates to anarchists to goddamn tankies here, and part of that came about because the right hasn’t had the chance to dominate and polarize this site into only two bands. Isn’t that a win on its own?

Considering that I hold a handful of more moderate or centrist opinions and they are seemingly entirely hated here I will say that yes the lack of right leaning presence has led to Lemmy being a far left echo chamber and in certain situations a massive circle jerk.

With nobody around even slightly questioning their beliefs they just snowball each other into more of a hate boner for anything they deem slightly right of their position.

I have run into a handful of people (like less than 20) that seem to actually have a firm grasp on reality and have touched grass at some point in the last 8 years.

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You seriously need to relax and chill, you are being way too serious, argumentative and damn near spouting serious conservative takes.

This comm is meant for jokes and humor, MAYBE some light debate I can let slide if it doesn’t get too argumentative, but you seriously drag down nearly every thread you show up on.

And I’m not even speaking about threads just in this comm either, maybe you should do some self reflection on why you’re constantly being downvoted.

This is your last warning, chill out and/or block the comm on your own, or I’ll do it for you.

Go fuck yourself
Ok then, I tried to be fair, but that’s that then