Software alternatives

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Any good euro alternatives for adobe suite?
You may want to clarify which parts you want to replace. As a whole suite, there isnt anything I am aware of, but each individual part usually has one or more open source alternatives
GIMP for Photoshop, Darktable or RawTherapee for Lightroom, Inkscape for Illustrator. For Premiere I was about to suggest DaVinci Resolve but it’s Australian, not European / FOSS.
kdenlive is a foss video editor.
Ah yes, I could not remember its name!
Australia is in Eurovision, does that not count? :D
I was looking for illustrator so thanks
I don’t know where it’s from, but Krita is always worth a look too :)
Threema is a swiss based messenger which e2e encryption.
Revanced is just a cracked YouTube app isn’t it?
It goes beyond just cracking, with support for features like SponsorBlock and Return YouTube Dislike, but essentially yes. It's not a meaningful YouTube "alternative", just a tweaked version of same.

Yes it is, if you want something different there is Newpipe, Tubular (with sponsor block and returndislike) , or Freetube. Probably others as well.

None of these let you login, if that is something you need.

They all still rely on YouTube for content. Of course the problem is that the real alternatives (such as PeerTube) have only a fraction of the content.
Don’t forget grayjay
Accrescent

Accrescent is an Android app store focused on security, privacy, and usability.

Accrescent
Lots of these are still American, and Bluesky isnt any-less of a walled garden, they just haven’t reached enshitification-critical-mass yet.

Yeah, the list does not fit this community

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Nextcloud is not the same as Google Drive. Element is not the same as Netflix. Recommending bluesky as a replacement for X is at least misleading, it is neither European nor free nor is it anywhere near better than X.

Edit: Stremio comparison with Netflix wanted to say

Where does the Element Netflix comparison came from?

Yep, most things on that list are not drop-in replacements for these products at all, as you're supposed to change your behavior entirely. i.e.:


  • For Nextcloud, you have to self-host or to search for a provider. Nextcloud themselves aren't offering any cloud services;
  • Same for Element (which is Matrix);
  • Flashes is just Bluesky, but with only photos - these same photos can be posted on Bluesky directly.
  • ReVanced as an alternative to YouTube? You gotta be joking.
  • Stremio - if you're not looking for piracy, then this is not for you. But it's a nice touch though
  • Immich - you can only self-host it
  • Brave; Firefox - they're the lesser evil, yet they're still American
  • For Droid-ify - you gotta jump to Android first. If you want to stay on Apple, use Alt Store


Probably the most feasible things for the regular folk to jump to are Mastodon, PeerTube, Pixelfed, Lemmy (self-hosting is not mandatory), Jitsi, Ecosia, LineageOS (if they switch phones) and Linux Mint (or any flavor of Linux for that matter).

AltStore

people have issues with brave, because its owned a trump loving homophobic, and the crypto scams.
Reminder: Stremio can use Torrents. Be aware of your local laws before enabling Torrent addons.
OP, quite a few of these are still American, some open source, some not. It’s more like a generic list of alternatives to mainstream.
When it’s FOSS it doesn’t matter so much where they’re based, fortunately
BlueSky and Brave for sure aren’t FOSS.
Being FOSS alone doesn’t help much if it’s a service that requires you to connect to a server by a private American company. Until recently Reddit was FOSS too
Saying “this FOSS is American” is a little like saying “any wheat in a meal makes it Egyptian because that’s where wheat comes from.” FOSS doesn’t have borders, because it can be used, forked, and modified by anyone. Even if an American created it, as soon as it becomes FOSS, it is a worldwide project.

Ecosia is a German web search engine based on Bing and Google’s index.
Qwant is a French web search engine based on Bing but which has been working on its own index for a while.
I just found out that Ecosia and Qwant started teaming up last year to build a European search index. I hope something will come out of it. blog.ecosia.org/eusp/

PeerTub is developped by French non-profit Framasoft, which also develops multiple de-gooling apps: collaborative docs, forms, agenda, or host other open-source collaboration tools. degooglisons-internet.org/en/

We’re teaming up with Qwant to build a European search index

We are proud to share the next step in our journey towards tech independence: building our very own search index!

The Ecosia Blog

I hope something will come out of it. Same, as soon as I heard they were developing an European search index i instantly switched to Qwant.

Where is my beloved son f-droid?
Droid-ify is an alternative frontend for f-droid
I recently moved Gmail, Google Docs and Sheets, Google Keep (tasks) and Drive to Mailbox.org. It’s super affordable and works really well. You can edit docs/sheets online or offline. No self-hosting required. I recommend it.
While this list is itself could use a major rework, I’m happy to see that this list, originally posted on reddit specifically, gives visibility to lemmy as a reddit alternative.
What’s the alternative for gmail / Google calendar etc.
I think the biggest are the Proton and Infomaniak kSuite ecosystems. Both have free tiers afaik.
Proton: Privacy by default

Over 100 million people use Proton to stay private and secure online. Get a free Proton account and take back your privacy.

Proton
Yep, just switched to Proton (Swiss, full ecosystem, end-to-end encrypted). Tutanota is the other serious option for end-to-end encrypted, managed mail and calendar.
Don’t use Brave. It’s got a lot of privacy issues, even compared to the Mozilla foundation. Underneath, it’s still Chrome.

Could you clarify some of these issues? I’m a long time brave user and have really enjoyed using it and haven’t noticed any issues besides some if their Web 3.0 integrations that you can turn off.

Always happy to find Better options though.

Instead of downvoting you, as is the style on these types of platforms it seems… I’ll actually try to link a few websites. One moment.

Thanks for actually answering my question. It was a genuine question based on my opinion for what I knew.

Based on those articles, the crypto stuff doesn’t necessarily worry me as much as the affiliate highjacking that they were caught doing. I wasn’t aware. Honey recently got caught up In a scandle just as bad if not worse (by scale of users).

And yeah, I heard Opera was pretty terrible. I wanna say I heard the developers of themselves opera left and created Vivaldi and Opera is Chinese owned I think? I could be wrong on that.

Either way, thanks.

Of course! I’d rather send links to someone than sit there and just downvote and move on, even if said person ignores every thing I sent. I tried to help!

My go to is this: Is it Chromium? Move on!

I want to see more Gecko and Webkit browsers than yet another freaking Chromium browser!

The Chinese ownership is stated in the “opera is shady as fuck!” link I sent! When you have time, and if you care enough, I’d recommend looking at the myriad reasons why they are both just really bad browsers, even for someone who can ignore the crypto garbage!

Anyway, have a good rest of your day, Jack! :)

Yeah, I’m not exactly thrilled on chrome either but at a certain point I think it comes down to “who’s fucking me the least”. Which I totally understand it’s probably still chrome but I think just like with privacy, there is no sweet spot with browsers. It’s all subjective on each person’s threshold and what they want/need.

Call me crazy, but an example I’ve been thinking about is this:

Firefox is great. But with their recent TOS addition a lot of people want to jump ship of which ive seen a lot reference forks of Firefox. If, hypothetically, mozilla followed suit and became the next google, wouldnt a lot of those forks just be getting their updates from upstream (depending on the type)? And either way, they would be gecko which is developed by mozilla. So if 10 years from now mozilla goes the data route then we could be back in the same predicament.

Of course, those forks might not add crypto or screw over creators by affiliate link highjacking so I get there’s more to it then that.

But either way, I kinda look at these things like the Signal messenger argument. Is it a perfect solution? No, some people say go further because it’s centralized but it does offer a great mix of security and eas of access. And I think those trade offs apply to browsers as well.

Anyways, thanks again and have a good one as well! I appreciate the discussion!

Also, the new owners run payday loan schemes.

hindenburgresearch.com/opera-phantom-of-the-turna…

Opera: Phantom of the Turnaround – 70% Downside – Hindenburg Research

i’ve been using brave for a long time and never had issues

i’ve had to disable all of their random new features but it the only chromium based with a full ad blocker

it worked incredibly well on lower spec phones as well

Thank you for the assist with the reply. I’d also like to add some recent comments the CEO has said…
CEO of Brave rants about "lefties," "glowies," George Soros - Lemmy.World

>The IRS rules governing nonprofits still required the Mozilla Foundation to beg big to go big: the parent had to go find big grants from Soros, Ford, Knight, MacArthur, and give smaller grants to many. This put it in the lefties-only-no-righty-Irish-need-apply revolving-door personnel sector of NGOs and nonprofits (too many glowies there for me, too). Which meant I had a hostile MoFo over my head the minute I got CEO appointment from the MoCo board… > >Of course I can’t comment on anything about my exit, for reasons that only the most loopy HN h8ers still can’t figure out. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43251203 [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43251203]

Home assistant is the gold standard for home automation now, they are light-years ahead of anything from the big tech. Billions of dollars and they can’t even make a usable home automation service.

The phrase about freedom and convenience in the OP image reminds me of what France’s foreign minister recently said about Europe’s relationship with the USA:

We are faced with a choice that is imposed on us, between effort and freedom, or comfort and servitude

Ukraine’s allies had no notice of Trump freezing military aid, Poland says

Rattled European politicians reaffirm backing for Kyiv and call for ‘quantum leap’ in strengthening EU’s defence

The Guardian

I use Nextcloud as a similar way as Google Drive or Google Photos. But it’s self-hosted and not for the mass.

I would recommend a mail service for drive. Most are quite stingy with storage. Mailbox.org or Infomaniak.

It’s very affordable to rent a hosted nextcloud instance on a European server. I love nextcloud. It’s my data storage, webmailer, calendar and contacts sync, collaborative office, shared finance manager and so much more!
Would you mind sharing a provider for this? I use Ionos currently and I’m quite unhappy with the features they provide, and I but i can’t find an alternative provider with the same amount of storage packaged. Thanks!
Why is blue sky in the right side column? It’s the same thing as X.
I like how it starts with getting off Twitter and trying out Lemmy and ends with switching to Linux.
Revanced is cool and all, but there are alternatives. One of them is Newpipe and its forks, it’s my personal favourite. Pretty sure 95% of people here already know it. But fyi, they have their own associated little nonprofit organisation based in Germany, the Newpipe e.V., which I found out about only recently and thought was pretty neat.
NewPipe - a free YouTube client

NewPipe
I don’t think BlueSky is a great alternative, it’s still American and also still pretty big tech
I also still don’t fully understand if it can be categorized as decentralized.
Nope, its a twitter clone

But it needs to stay. Mastodon is better, but Bluesky has momentum, and anything to get people off Twitter.

Mastodon is still there, and first.

Why is no one mentioning Delta as alternative chat app? it is neat, has bots and mini apps, multi device too.