@pluralistic @mozillaofficial Apparently it has to do with CCPA’s definition of “selling data” which simply includes data being transferred to any third party for any reason. Because Mozilla uses tools for collecting usage metrics and has some marketing and tracking stuff built in, any third party involved in this would receive this data, and the CCPA considers this “selling data”.

It can apparently be so over-broad that service providers have included this kind of language simply for your data being hosted in their services in a third party provider like Hetzner, AWS, etc.

So it appears to be some potentially over-broad definitions in law.

@bedast @pluralistic @mozillaofficial I don't buy it, sorry to say. There are graceful ways for orgs + lawyers to handle this. Rather than a broad clause like that, you can separate collection & usage into sections and describe it.

For ex, in cases where data is necessary for payment processing, email subs etc my orgs specify that collection + usage and the reason it's warranted.

Mozilla does telemetry I won't do, but still could've written that in specific terms. No one would have bat an eye.

@bedast @pluralistic @mozillaofficial it's a hard explanation for me to accept given my experience with Mozilla and folks at Mozilla. They know this stuff re: data and licensing extremely well.

This response seems like a smokescreen, and one with multiple iterations.

I wish Mozilla and Firefox well. There might be some soul-searching here to do and some re-centering of the org around its core values.