Tony, Pretty MuchMar 2, 2025

Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and especially Kamala Harris all warned us of what was going to happen if Trump was elected. Continuously.

What do you want them to do now? The nation voted for this shitshow (I know Trump got a “plurality”- in the end it doesn’t change his win). The fuck are they going to do? Fake cry on TV?

It’s bad enough people are blaming Dems in office for Republicans’ shit. Stop blaming the ones out of office.

If this is hard for you, I question your motives.

Show threadJonChevreau 🇨🇦Mar 3, 2025
@TonyStark as I said earlier today, America and Trump are at the “Till death do us part” stage of their relationship. It’s just not clear which dies first.
Show threadWendiGoose 🇺🇦Mar 3, 2025
@JonChevreau You’re speaking as if America was a single person, and not all the millions who voted for Kamala Harris. We did not consent to this.
@TonyStark
Show threadKen Walker Mar 3, 2025
@wendinoakland @JonChevreau @TonyStark America is responsible for this shitshow and the catastrophe it is for the world. Americans can't believe in democracy and not be ashamed. If they claim to do both, their belief in democracy is flawed.
Show threadChristopher WalkerMar 3, 2025

@kgw @wendinoakland @JonChevreau @TonyStark

I voted for Harris, am ashamed, and am no longer sure I even believe in democracy. Face it, even without the electoral college, this thing would’ve won this time. If that’s the result of letting the people decide, then the people just aren’t that bright. No, I don’t have a better plan, and the idea that government derives it legitimacy from the consent of the governed and from nowhere else still resonates with me. But, well, this sucks.

Show threadRichard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP 🇨🇦🌹🚴‍♂️📷 🗺️Mar 3, 2025

@cswalker21 @kgw @wendinoakland @JonChevreau @TonyStark

More organized thoughts here:

http://the5thc.blogspot.com/2018/10/ondemocracy-whata-better-way-to-restart.html

http://the5thc.blogspot.com/2019/01/is-american-democracy-fucked.html

On Democracy

What a better way to restart The Fifth Column than by a treatise on how to make our democracy actually democratic. Hopefully this will be...

Show threadKen Walker 

@the5thColumnist @cswalker21 @wendinoakland @JonChevreau @TonyStark

Thank you for sharing these two excellent pieces. The first, about electoral reform in #Canada is convincing. I voted no in the last referendum in BC because I couldn't understand how it would work which is essential if a system is to be credible.

Your second piece on the US situation is very well expressed in its closing sentence.

#demicracy #cdnpoli

Mar 3, 2025 at 5:55amWeb
Show threadRichard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP 🇨🇦🌹🚴‍♂️📷 🗺️Mar 3, 2025

@kgw @cswalker21 @wendinoakland @JonChevreau @TonyStark

One of the reasons I am starting to support Ranked Ballot Voting is because it is easier to understand and essentially does not change the Single Member Constituency system, only how votes are counted.

http://the5thc.blogspot.com/2024/11/why-i-dislike-ranked-ballot-voting-why.html

Why I Dislike Ranked Ballot Voting & Why I Support It

After four years studying Political Science at Laurentian University and over thirty years working for the House of Commons I tended to appr...