MicroWaveMar 1, 2025

Trump thinks he humiliated Zelensky. He really humiliated the United States

https://lemmy.world/post/26195631

Trump thinks he humiliated Zelensky. He really humiliated the United States - Lemmy.World

Summary Trump and Zelenskyy’s confrontational Oval Office meeting advanced “mob boss foreign policy” serving Russian interests. Trump and Vance bullied Zelenskyy when he refused their “extortionate” minerals deal or to thank them despite Trump’s stated intent to reduce support for Ukraine. Zelenskyy effectively countered their claims by noting Russia’s 2014 invasion and correcting historical inaccuracies, which angered the Americans. This “darkest day” in US foreign policy history humiliated America, not Zelenskyy, and represents the first “openly anti-US, anti-Western, anti-democracy foreign policy in American history.” Russians loved what they saw, with Putin ally and former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev celebrated the exchange.

Show threadElkotMar 2, 2025
America humiliated itself by voting this orange twat back in
Show threadGodthrilla
We tried not to, I promise you. Our voting system is …problematical, at best
Mar 3, 2025 at 5:43amWeb
Show threadliuther9Mar 3, 2025
Illusion of choice
Show threadSpziMar 3, 2025

So is social media, and the openness of free societies to internal (the rich owning the media) and external (foreign adversaries) tampering. Spreading misinformation, eroding trust in institutions and truth itself, poisons like that.

Many democracies are crumbling this way. We yet have to find an effective antidote.

Regardless of the voting system, there still is a worryingly large portion of voters who were corrupted to serve other’s interests. And that is true to all (?) countries. That not just any two democracies fall first, but GB and US, kind of shows us that it could be anyone.

So while it is easy to look down on the fallen, or feel ashamed to be that - we’re helpless in this together. Hate to end like that.