#SolicitedAdvice: What alternatives do people know for Google Drive / OneDrive / Dropbox / iCloud? Got some friends looking to move off the Goog in particular. Cloud editing would be nice.

Personally, I'm going mostly local, with Standard Notes (&/or Obsidian) for most things I need to sync/backup securely. Proton Drive seems like a decent option, too.
(Alas, Proton & S.Notes are tainted by Andy Yen's rancid POTUS opinions – but the tools themselves seem fairly immune to corruption, IMO.)

@alexglow I'm personally looking at mailbox.org (German hosting provider), but I haven't made a switch yet.
@thzinc @alexglow I'd also vouch for mailbox.org folks . But they are working on an OCIS fork. Maybe wait for that to be generally-available in a couple of months https://github.com/opencloud-eu
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@alexglow My wife uses Box for her business' storage. My (now former) company used them when sharing files with external folks. It's very much targeted at business users. I have no idea what their politics are.
@alexglow cryptpad.fr for text/spreadsheets/etc suite.
maybe seafile.com for files.
@alexglow I hear a lot about @nextcloud (and their Dutch partner @thegoodcloud ). But no first-hand experience yet.
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@alexglow i would love to kill off my dropbox account. but i’ve tried and discarded everything else. i honestly don’t know. i’m curious what you or your friend moved to.

@alexglow I pay about €5 a month to Hetzner for their NX11 product for photo and file storage. The Nextcloud install is managed by them, and they communicate pretty well on upgrades etc.

I sync my phone's photos there. Nextcloud tries to be a shared workspace like Google's suite with office software, etc, but I don't use any of those aspects. There are a ton of Nextcloud applications you can install, but I'm really mostly just using it for the file storage / sync.

@alexglow I went with Upnote for local and optionally shared and will migrate collab stuff to https://cryptpad.fr
CryptPad: end-to-end encrypted collaboration suite

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@alexglow I run Nextcloud in EC2 for storage-- costs me about the same as Dropbox would, maybe a little less. It has a ton of collaboration and office features I don't really use (I just want a folder that can sync everywhere), and is pretty low-maintenance as self-hosted stuff goes.

For notes I've been using Joplin, which you can have sync'd up with Nextcloud. I feel like I'd be getting more if I used Obsidian but the last time I looked (quite a while ago) Obsidian had some dark patterns against third-party sync solutions

@alexglow I used simplenote for notes, it seems like the developers are decent but they are based in California.

Mega.io for cloud storage, it's based in new Zealand

Tuta is a great private email provider, I've been using them for years and really like it

@alexglow self hosted etherpad is a lot of fun for collab Docs

@pedrolopes @alexglow

There is a pretty cool one that also generates a web page automatically:

https://pad.land/

@alexglow You could give us a try 😉 We offer cloud storage, antivirus, and a VPN too!
@alexglow self hosting NextCloud with my brother and I exchanging encrypted backups for our NextCloud servers