Anyone have any ideas or advice for me? I'm looking to replace the US based #Webflow platform as my main web design tool. I still love it, it's incredible. But I'm concerned at the country's antics and how at their Dear Leader's whim service to Europe could be cut off in a single day.
I love #noCode when I can see what is going on begins the ui (ie the code changes). I can code, just a visual ui is faster to work with.
Thoughts on #Webstudio #Pinegrow other suggestions? #webDesign #design
@ronanmcd Cloudcannon and Carrd were on my list to investigate when I was looking at Webflow, but neither solves your US-based problem.
@reanguiano Webstudio (by an ex Webflow engineer) and Pinegrow are my current top two. They both need third party CMS options though. Framer a possibility if it requires its own CMS.
@ronanmcd
Hey! Webstudio is open source and will be always accessible whatever happens. Websites/webapps are completely decoupled by design and can be easily self hosted with our CLI
@trysound hey, yes, I've been taking it for a test run... Really impressed so far. Only a few qualms: I'd prefer something EU based, and I'll need to figure out Headless CMS. There's also some coding I'll need to learn (conditional visibility to show or hide items) but overall it's really impressive. I particularly love the tokens concept and how that works.
@ronanmcd We are EU based
@trysound ah, cool! I've signed up for a pro account. Thank you!

@ronanmcd

I just recently discovered Pinegrow and am very impressed by it. I will probably stick with that. .

@TomSeppert due to test it this week. I have used Modx as a CMS for years and I could use Pinegrow to develop the front end templates. That setup would be very light on hosting, so I could look at green hosting options

@ronanmcd

I found Pinegrow in search for a visual tool to help me build a front end with boortrap5 for a Pimcore project. Pimcore is based on Symfony and uses Twig as template engine.

For simple sites in the future I plan to use just Pinegrow (PG recognizes PHP for things like a form) and probably combine it with Grav (light flat-file cms that also uses Twig) for when a customer needs to edit content. I need to look into that last one tho.

I'm coming from Wordpress.

@TomSeppert great ideas, thanks. I'll check these out
@ronanmcd webflow is amazing (ui and concept)
A free and open source alternative is @silex
Not as polished and you'll probably need to ask questions for advanced use cases, but we use it tp create professional websites - and I'm the main contributor
Feel free to ask me any questions
@lexoyo @silex oh, cool, I'll take a look at that too. I've tried a few now, and the code they each put out varies. So, no easy pick without testing
@ronanmcd @silex feel free to ask us questions here
@lexoyo @silex great! Thank you
@lexoyo @silex hi Alex, I have signed up for testing Silex, and looking forward to learning new skills. Some of it looks daunting, but that's a nice challenge! I will come back to you with questions if that's ok, mainly about how you use it in your own business, as the eco aspect (finding hosts, lining all those tech pieces together etc) really interest me. Like you, I would like my business to offer a better alternative than the normal which uses too many resources
@ronanmcd @silex That's great 👍👍👍🎉
We need to team up to do better IT :))
@ronanmcd @silex i just looked at your work and it looks great !!
Also if you need to we can do video calls to help you if you're stuck
@lexoyo @silex thank you! I'll try the software, see how i get on. But that could be great. I am doing a sustainability postgrad, and this forms part of the project research, so I have a deadline which helps me focus. I plan to test the system this week and will definitely have questions for you after that!