All you guys suck, democrats enabled the rise of fascism by being impotent cowards trying to get the scraps left behind by the republicunts.

Vote as far left as possible all the way up, if it ends up as trump v clinton then it should be the lefter of the two.

And Democrats will always take advantage of that. They supported genocide last election. How much further to the right are they going to go? Because they will never move one Planck length to the left.

okay so what’s your next step? because letting the right win has to be the stupidest ever way to influence change to the left

because letting the right win has to be the stupidest ever way to influence change to the left

Maybe the party shouldn’t have done it then. There will never be anything that will get Democrats to move to the left. You know it. You love it. It’s why you’re gloating with your spoiled milk analogy.

No, he asked for a next step. Because leftists can’t get a win.

Because leftists can’t get a win.

Oh, you gonna gloat too? Ok, hows about the party hold honest primaries for fucking once. Or primaries at all? How’s that for step 2? Then again, since you love your sour milk, that’s a nonstarter too.

You’re a bit weird, I’m still not talking about Democrats, I’m talking about leftists.

What can leftists do to get a win?

Well, they could take over the green party. They’re a small party with even smaller primaries. The left could just saunter in and take it. From there, they could extract concessions from Democrats in exchange for not running. Or run. If Democrats don’t want to split the vote, they don’t have to field a candidate. It’s not like they’re interested in winning in the first place.

Why the green party? Why not primary vulnerable downballot democrats?

Use the same tactic the right has used on the republican party over the last 20 years to move the opposition party our direction. Is the green party uniquely positioned or something? They have a terrible track record and at least at one point about a decade ago, were thought to be infested with .ru shills.

Why not primary vulnerable downballot democrats?

Because I’ve seen how that goes. The party protects incumbents as long as their opponents are progressive.

Compare how the party protected anti-choice anti-labor pro-nra Henry Cuellar to how it abandoned Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman.