bobby the countFeb 27, 2025
I urge my fellow online leftists to reconsider using overtly Marxist language. terms like “bourgeois” are radioactive to someone who has internalized capitalist propaganda. the ideas aren’t difficult to explain in plainer language. “meet people where they’re at,” as they say
Show threadmike805Feb 27, 2025

@count_bobby Proletariat. Class interest, class consciousness. I'm sure there are others. Marxism and its language are radioactive and the working class movement needs to get away from it. Marxist countries were miserable places to be a worker.

Talk about the working class, working people, wage theft, and the fact that during the heyday of America, the labor share of the economy was several points higher than it is today. That resonates with people.

Show threadbadushkaFeb 27, 2025

@mike805 @count_bobby
Proletariat. Class interest, class consciousness, working class.

Those terms all sound Marxist to me.

What's different?

Show threadmike805

@badushka @count_bobby Working class not so much, but the others are Marxist.

You can generally tell Marxist writing just from the style.

Feb 27, 2025 at 6:42amWeb
Show threadbadushkaFeb 27, 2025
@mike805 @count_bobby What's the Marxist style?
As far as I understand, Marxism is a philosophy focused on class struggle, rather than a literary style.
Show threadbobby the countFeb 27, 2025

@badushka @mike805 I think Mike is in agreement with me that we don’t do ourselves any rhetorical favors by using terms that are probably going to conjure up prejudices people have re: Marxism, especially in the US

on top of that, some of the language just doesn’t feel right in the 21st century. talking about “the means of production” when referring to e.g. Facebook just ain’t it