how would you like the idea of creating collaborative #art through the #fediverse?
Learning collaboration with strangers:

#music:
- one starts recording a part of a possible track
- toot it
- others put another soundline on it
- ...until the first track is finished
- upload it to #mediaGoblin or else?

text:
- have a look what's happening here #shortstory #smallstory

paint/design:
- start something
- toot
- let others continue

universe is a #commons

@paulfree14 maby some of you can boost/link it forward to #artists?

What @paulfree14 suggests would make a nice challenge setup actually. :)

(actually even more intense version of this would be having one item walk around 30 days through 30 artists.)

Consider yourselves challenged. (or done so once daily sketch challenge of july is done) :)

(tagging @Curator @Ayior @KemoNine @Jennahos as they might be interested in this)

@Jennahos @[email protected] @Curator @eylul @Ayior
yeah, didn't expected positive responses coming so quick. :)

there's also an artist involved planing to set up a #MediaGoblin instance.
The hashtags we're thinking to use is #collaboArt as the general term. and then #collaboMusic to describe the specifics. And using both in one toot.

@paulfree14 do you have good suggestions for tags? maybe #musicollabo #collabœuvre #collaboart #collabostory I'm a musician so I will start with some #music tracks.

@emir
I like #collaboArt as the general hashtag.
and then ppl can maybe just add hashtags like #music.

As I think you can then search for #collaboArt #musik, or #collaboArt #drawing

@emir ...nope doesn't work.
The I guess we also would need to find specific hashtags for the specific kind of art.
But maybe it's nice to start with one for the beginnin, and then add time by time more?
@paulfree14 yeah I also found out in the meantime that you can't search for more than one hashtag at the same time. But what's cool about hashtags is that you can add as many as you like, thus you can add to a music track for example #collaboArt #musicollabo #music
@emir
if we take more then one I would try to stick to one follwing the same pattern.
like #collaboArt and collaboMusic
This makes it more recognisable.
@[email protected] question: you seem to heavily promote #fediverse. I think I got the idea behind it more or less, and I like it. What I still don't get: Is fediverse just an abstract term to describe mastodon, gnusocial etc. or is it a thing of its own? is having a mastodon account equivalent to having a fediverse account? or is there a way to get a proper fediverse account?
@emir for me it's both. a term on it's own: describing that the universe is bigger then just the place you feel rooted for the moment and still in connection with something bigger through federation.
It's mainly used to describe a ''plattform'' which isn't about a single instances or a single software, but a networking growing over oneself in order to be !fediverse
:-p
So everything together I call it
the fediverse

@paulfree14 #music

Set up an instance. Everybody who wants to with on it signs up.

Each user works on part of the track - drums, bass, whatever. Represented by toots to that user's stream. Maybe tracker notion? Midi as Unicode did not seem like a good idea.

That instance's global stream represents the song. Run it through a sequencer.

Everybody, feel free to use this track to modify it or to add tracks (like vocals or other) or images/visuals. Be creative! https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/emir/m/berimbau-beat-for-collabomusic/ CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 #CollaboMusic #CollaboArt #Music #Berimbau #HipHop #Beat @paulfree14 @Jennahos @KemoNine @Curator @eylul @Ayior
@envgen

@paulfree14

this kind of music collaboration is very difficult to work on in serial way: adding layers to recordings will pretty much destroy what was started:

A makes a melody.
B adds a beat.
C adds a vocal
D adds a bassline, but cannot adjust the volume of the beat, which is now fighting for bass-space.

who decides when the track is finished?

/cc @Curator @eylul @kemonine

@kemonine @eylul @Curator @paulfree14

couple of ideas:

A: use of multi-track FLAC files. eventually they will become huge.

B: use of a pool of recordings with various source sounds/melodies/beats, but then needed is:

C: use of benevolent dictator, who coordinates the creation of a song

D: use of common software, which limits who can participate.

E: final collage of "tiny compositions"

@paulfree14 @Curator @eylul @kemonine

+ couple of online collaborative projects:

The Disquiet Junto is a group in which musicians respond to weekly, fast-turnaround assignments to compose, record, and share new music. The idea is to use constraints as a springboard for creativity.

https://disquiet.com/2013/04/25/disquiet-junto-faq/

@kemonine @eylul @Curator @paulfree14

more on musical online collaborations:

Weeklybeats 2016 was a 52 week long music project in which artists composed and publicly released 1 song a week for the entire year. http://www.weeklybeats.com/

@paulfree14 @Curator @eylul @kemonine

and another format of online music collaboration is "Beat Cyphers", like for examples LA's TeamSupreme: Every week a different producer picks two samples and a BPM. The files get passed around, and everybody has roughly 1 hour to use the guidelines and make a beat.

https://soundcloud.com/beatteamsupreme