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Donald Trump's Gen Z popularity plunges

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Donald Trump's Gen Z popularity plunges - Lemmy.World

Summary Donald Trump’s popularity among Generation Z voters has sharply declined since the 2024 election, according to a new Economist/YouGov poll. His net favorability among 18-29-year-olds has dropped from +19 in November to -18, raising concerns for Republicans about sustaining youth support. While Trump gained ground with young voters in 2024, recent policies—such as his mass deportation plan and targeting of DEI initiatives—may have contributed to this decline.

Feb 13, 2025 at 6:05pmWeb
Show threadRentlarFeb 13, 2025

Good news, having such an eye-awakening experience at an impressionable age can drive people left-wing for their lifetime. Same has happened during Trump-1, Bush-2 and Bush-3, (now in Canadian politics) the Walkerton Crisis, the Mulroney days, and now hopefully with Doug Ford.

Bad news: They already got played, and they might get played again in 4 years with billions of big tech money intended to distract the masses.

Show threadgdog05Feb 13, 2025
We’re going to be damned lucky if we get the chance for people to be played again.
Show threadCorkyskogFeb 13, 2025

It will happen, might take a generation or three.

This is all so depressing… Its like there needs to be a massive war every so many years so people remember why it’s important to have a democracy and be kind to one another.

Show threadVoroxpeteFeb 13, 2025
It won’t be luck that will save your democracy, it will be determination.
Show threadchuckleslordFeb 13, 2025
Question of when, not if. Fascism isn’t sustainable, it will fail eventually (but gods is depressing to think of it getting real bad)
Show threadgrueFeb 14, 2025

There’s a famous quote about investing by Garry Shilling: “the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.” Sure, you can say “this is definitely a bubble” and “it will eventually revert to the mean,” but fat lot of good that does you if you’ve already been screwed by the time it happens.

Similarly, it’s easy to say that dictatorships are doomed to failure “eventually,” but that “eventually” can easily be beyond your lifetime. Just look at North Korea, for instance.

Show threadKillingTimeItselfFeb 14, 2025

north korea isn’t doomed to failure by virtue of how incredible aggressively their abuse their citizenship.

By literally ANY metric of the definition of failure, except for “dissolution” north korea has utterly failed their citizens. They’ve only managed to keep control through force.

Show threadSynonymousStoatFeb 13, 2025
We’ll probably find out in 2 years when seats of Congress are up for election again.
Show threadOutlierBlueFeb 13, 2025
You still think there are going to be free and open elections?
Show threadsamus12345Feb 13, 2025
Yes, in blue states. State governments are responsible for elections, not Federal. I expect plenty of fraud and worse-than-usual voter suppression in Republican-governed states, though.
Show threadKillingTimeItselfFeb 14, 2025

the concern here is that if the redwall we saw in the presidential election persists into the midterms, it may not matter what blue states vote, it’s entirely dependent on how well the general public views the current administration as doing, and if that’s “poorly” they’ll get fucked and we’ll swing blue, if not, nothing happens.

If enough of the population thinks they did a good job, for whatever reason, it may not be recoverable at all.

Show threadsamus12345Feb 14, 2025
I’m assuming that there won’t be another Democrat in the White House in the foreseeable future due to corrupt red state governments. Elections will be good for for state things and that’s it.
Show threadKillingTimeItselfFeb 16, 2025

i highly doubt that will be the case, but it’s technically a possibility, at least given the current electoral college, i doubt the congress won’t see another democrat though.

The US historically tends to swing between republican and democrat aggressively, this cycle is no exception thus far, i expect a far left swing after this term is over.

Show threadsticklyFeb 14, 2025

The Federal Election Commission has determined that your state had a fraudulent election. Please remain calm while our jackboots personally conduct a recount…

Show threadShaggySnacksFeb 15, 2025
Our recount has shown that President Trump has won the midterms with 103% voting in favor of him.
Show threadcompostgoblinFeb 13, 2025

I’ll echo the other reply - red states will not have them, blue and some purple states will. I suspect we will continue to have the facade of democracy for a while, and may see the Democrats take the House and maybe the Senate in 2026.

The real question is, if there are elections in 2028, and the Republicans lose, will there be a transfer of power? I don’t have a good feeling about the answer, but only time will tell. Four years is a long time for an obese old man with a very stressful job to live, and I don’t think there is anyone who can easily take over Trump’s cult of personality and take the reins of the fascist movement.

Show threadKillingTimeItselfFeb 14, 2025

The real question is, if there are elections in 2028, and the Republicans lose, will there be a transfer of power?

i imagine there will have to be, otherwise there will literally be a civil war. Unless they rig voting somehow.

Show threadOutlierBlueFeb 14, 2025

They’re completely ignoring congress right now and they control both chambers. You think they’re going to start listening if the democrats gain control?!

This will not be solved by an election. Germany couldn’t vote away Hitler. Russia can’t vote away Putin. And America can’t vote away Elon Trump.

Anyone who believes there is a peaceful way they can sit on their ass and hopefully maybe one day vote the problem away is in denial.

Show threadSynonymousStoatFeb 13, 2025
I hope so. Also, I feel like saying things like this only make more people fall into the defeatist perspective which will then lead to lower voter turn out. I get where you’re coming from, but we have to at least try.
Show threadQuadhammerFeb 15, 2025
Theres 3 seats up for special elections here soon because of appointments
Show threadSynonymousStoatFeb 15, 2025
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about that. Thanks for reminding me!
Show threadTm12Feb 13, 2025
Harper and Mike Harris for me.
Show threadTriashaFeb 13, 2025

If that were true, trump wouldn’t have won his first term or his second.

Republicans can rest easy, they will forget by 2028, 2030 at the latest.

Show threadjayboneFeb 13, 2025
There’s a Bush-3? In Canada? Sounds like the sequel to a really bad movie nobody liked and everyone is wondering why it even got made.
Show threadPrettyFlyForAFatGuyFeb 13, 2025
If we’re counting election cycles there were 4 bushes. none in canada afaik though
Show threadRentlarFeb 13, 2025
I count Bush-1 as 1989, Bush-2 as 2001 and Bush-3 as 2005.
Show threadthisorthatorwhateverFeb 13, 2025
I hate articles like this. He won, he is in power. He will be in power for 4 years. His popularity doesn’t matter anymore.
Show threadThe D QuuuuuillFeb 13, 2025

He will be in power for 4 years

minimum

Show threadearphone843Feb 13, 2025
Not necessarily. His lifestyle is atrocious
Show threadsamus12345Feb 13, 2025
But his medical care is the best in the country.
Show threadearphone843Feb 13, 2025
That can only do so much, though.
Show threadsticklyFeb 14, 2025
They made a hologram of Tupac, I’m sure they could figure something out
Show threadquinceyBonesFeb 13, 2025
Does if you want a revolution.
Show threadKusimulkkuFeb 13, 2025
I envy the optimism.
Show threadcm0002Feb 13, 2025

The popularity of the President has a great effect on what happens in the midterm elections.

Ofc that’s dependant on us having a free and fair midterm election by then

Show threadAidinthelFeb 13, 2025
If he were a normal president who cared about Congress and the future of his party in fair and free elections this would matter a lot. Unfortunately he isn’t and his plan is to make certain there aren’t any free and fair elections, so we’ll see what happens.
Show threadthisorthatorwhateverFeb 13, 2025
Need to rejoin England, go back to a proper parliamentary system. Everybody who saw the American Constitutional, from it’s first publication, said "this will end up as a dictatorship, as the role of president has too much power’'. Finally that scenario has played out.
Show threadPhobosAnomalyFeb 13, 2025
It’s not great in the UK either mind, for fucks sake don’t copy us!
Show threadcorsicanguppyFeb 13, 2025

It doesn’t have to be great.

It just has to be better.

Show threadofficermikeFeb 13, 2025
He’ll be in power for only the next 23 months if we can get a supermajority of sane, congresspeople with backbones elected in 2026. So yeah, he’ll be in power for 4+ years.
Show threadVoroxpeteFeb 13, 2025

Democracy happens whether governments want it to or not.

Elections are just a form of democracy where all parties involved agree that its going to happen.

Either way, the will of the people will ultimately decide the direction of every nation, regardless of what kind of government they have.

Show threadZedstrianFeb 13, 2025

While an overload of mindless far-right, conservative, bigoted, and transphobic videos on TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram, and similar posts on Facebook and Twitter, undoubtedly played a large part in indoctrinating so many people (as has been the case in countries such as Hungary and Turkey), it’s still crazy that so many people were suckered in by Trump’s lies about reducing inflation, when his first term in office proved how shitty he was, as well as the reason why Roe vs. Wade was overturned. It shouldn’t have taken countless constitutional violations in only the first month of a second term as president for people to realize that.

If corporate oligarchs haven’t fully dismantled what remains of the country’s severely flawed democracy in four years’ time, then there’s every chance that they’ll buy the presidency again in 2028, apathetic to the rise of fascism and the dismantlement of civil rights.

Show threadsticklyFeb 13, 2025

Why would they have to buy it again? They already own it.

I agree it is disappointing, but not enough people remember what it was like to be a confused and arrogant teenager. Let alone in the modern era where all their media comes from platforms funded by billionaires 24/7, politics hasn’t had a shred of decorum in their conscious lifetimes, and the planet is undergoing multiple unprecedented crises.

Show threadgravitas_deficiencyFeb 13, 2025
It’s almost like a ton of zoomers weren’t paying attention to what the fuck he was doing last time around.
Show threadTransplantedSconieFeb 13, 2025

If you think about it, a TON of zoomers were maybe 10 years old when he started his shit.

It’s literally all they have known for most of their formative years. I blame their parents more then them. They never talked to their kids about what he’s doing apparently.

I tell my two kids that what he is doing is evil, and anyone who follows him is broken in some form or another. I tell them ALL the stuff our country has done, good and bad, and to keep learning, keep questioning, and most of all: beware of people like him. They are world enders.

Show threadBradleyUffnerFeb 13, 2025
He’s the funny guy from all their memes. They love those memes!
Show threadAdamBombFeb 14, 2025

formidable years

I think you meant “formative”.

Show threadTransplantedSconieFeb 14, 2025
Changed it, thanks. Stupid phone.
Show threadvaultdweller013Feb 13, 2025
I was 16 at the start of the last time, so yeah quite a few of the middle and younger zoomers may legit not remember or were too young to understand.
Show threadBonesince1997Feb 13, 2025
In it for the jokes.
Show threadWagnasTFeb 13, 2025

It’s not just the zoomers

did biden drop out

Show threadKillingTimeItselfFeb 14, 2025
this is what i like the call “the stupidity of the crowd”
Show threadsticklyFeb 13, 2025
A lot of people were the same age when GWB was signing the Patriot Act and didn’t realize the consequences of his presidency until much later. Young people are impressionable but they do change.
Show threadJaxFeb 13, 2025
Problem is there are too many old people misguiding young people, the capacity for change doesn’t matter if the same mistakes will be repeated by the next generation.
Show threadblakenongFeb 13, 2025

They were kids. Their parents blamed Biden for the lockdown. They hated the lockdown.

But, many people are easily swayed by emotions. That’s why that whole “genocide Joe” influence worked so well.

Very few people can see the forest through the trees.

Show threadKillingTimeItselfFeb 14, 2025
the unfortunate truth is that most zoomers got politically engaged during the biden admin, most zoomers were in elementary, maybe middle MAYBE highschool during the first trump term. This was most definitely an expected result to some degree.
Show threadLupusBlackfurFeb 13, 2025

Leopard… Face… etc.

FAFO…

But credit, at least, for waking up, realizing, and responding. 👏

Show threadEheranFeb 13, 2025
Responding? How, where?
Show threadLupusBlackfurFeb 13, 2025
“popularity plunges”… That’s a response… 🤷‍♂️
Show threadMothmanDelorianFeb 13, 2025
Too bad they voted for him before realizing they made a stupid choice. Now I hope Gen X figures that out.