Avowed | Review Thread

https://lemm.ee/post/55431707

Avowed | Review Thread - lemm.ee

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/18450106 [https://beehaw.org/post/18450106] > Game Information > -------------------- > > Game Title: Avowed > > Platforms: > > - Xbox Series X/S (Feb 18, 2025) > - PC (Feb 18, 2025) > > Trailers: > > - Avowed Story Trailer [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYvTNAaXMUA] > - Avowed - Official Gameplay Trailer [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULsF7B6bFuU] > > > Developer: Obsidian Entertainment > > Publisher: Xbox Game Studios > > Review Aggregator: > > OpenCritic - 82 average - 85% recommended - 67 reviews [https://opencritic.com/game/17747/avowed] > > Critic Reviews > ------------- > > > 4News.it [https://opencritic.com/outlet/917/4news-it] - Danilo Di Gennaro [https://opencritic.com/critic/10821/danilo-di-gennaro] - Italian - 8.8 / 10 [https://4news.it/recensione-avowed-benvenuti-nelle-terre-viventi/] > > ------------- > > ACG [https://opencritic.com/outlet/310/acg] - Jeremy Penter [https://opencritic.com/critic/1355/jeremy-penter] - Wait for Sale [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbDmNLF3tmc] > > ------------- > > AltChar [https://opencritic.com/outlet/820/altchar] - Semir Omerovic [https://opencritic.com/critic/8557/semir-omerovic] - 85 / 100 [https://www.altchar.com/reviews/avowed-review-vibrant-visceral-and-undeniably-fun-action-rpg-aTgRh5u2OORA] > > ------------- > > Andrenoob [https://opencritic.com/outlet/911/andrenoob] - Andres Perdomo [https://opencritic.com/critic/10753/andres-perdomo] - Spanish - 9 / 10 [https://andrenoob.com/2025/02/13/avowed-analisis-review/] > > ------------- > > Atarita [https://opencritic.com/outlet/885/atarita] - Atakan Gümrükçüoğlu [https://opencritic.com/critic/10246/atakan-g-mr-k-o-lu] - Turkish - 90 / 100 [https://www.atarita.com/avowed-inceleme/] > > ------------- > > But Why Tho? [https://opencritic.com/outlet/722/but-why-tho-] - Charles Hartford [https://opencritic.com/critic/6624/charles-hartford] - 9.5 / 10 [https://butwhytho.net/2025/02/avowed-game-review-obsidian/] > > ------------- > > CGMagazine [https://opencritic.com/outlet/82/cgmagazine] - Dayna Eileen [https://opencritic.com/critic/8194/dayna-eileen] - 8 / 10 [https://www.cgmagonline.com/review/game/avowed-xbox-series-x-review/] > > ------------- > > Cerealkillerz [https://opencritic.com/outlet/465/cerealkillerz] - Steve Brieller [https://opencritic.com/critic/9606/steve-brieller] - German - 8.3 / 10 [https://cerealkillerz.org/review-avowed-kann-das-pillars-of-eternity-spin-off-ueberzeugen/] > > ------------- > > Checkpoint Gaming [https://opencritic.com/outlet/563/checkpoint-gaming] - Luke Mitchell [https://opencritic.com/critic/4403/luke-mitchell] - 9.5 / 10 [https://checkpointgaming.net/reviews/2025/02/avowed-review-divine-fantasy/] > > ------------- > > Console-Tribe [https://opencritic.com/outlet/918/console-tribe] - Francesco Pellizzari [https://opencritic.com/critic/10864/francesco-pellizzari] - Italian - 88 / 100 [https://console-tribe.com/recensioni/avowed-304622/] > > ------------- > > Daily Mirror [https://opencritic.com/outlet/561/daily-mirror] - Aaron Potter [https://opencritic.com/critic/2776/aaron-potter] - 3 / 5 [https://www.mirror.co.uk/gaming/avowed-review-fun-frivolous-rpg-34664490] > > ------------- > > Dexerto [https://opencritic.com/outlet/863/dexerto] - Jessica Filby [https://opencritic.com/critic/9424/jessica-filby] - 4 / 5 [https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/avowed-review-sublime-rpg-blends-masterful-choices-and-magical-combat-3062697/] > > ------------- > > Digital Spy [https://opencritic.com/outlet/24/digital-spy] - Joe Draper [https://opencritic.com/critic/9856/joe-draper] - 4 / 5 [http://www.digitalspy.com/tech/a63756832/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > Digitale Anime [https://opencritic.com/outlet/944/digitale-anime] - Raouf Belhamra [https://opencritic.com/critic/11073/raouf-belhamra] - Arabic - 8.5 / 10 [https://ar.digitaleanime.dz/archives/62142] > > ------------- > > Echo Boomer [https://opencritic.com/outlet/702/echo-boomer] - David Fialho [https://opencritic.com/critic/6219/david-fialho] - Portuguese - No Recommendation [https://echoboomer.pt/avowed-xbox-series-x-pc-review/] > > ------------- > > Enternity.gr [https://opencritic.com/outlet/783/enternity-gr] - Christos Chatzisavvas [https://opencritic.com/critic/7759/christos-chatzisavvas] - Greek - 9 / 10 [https://www.enternity.gr/Article/Games/Reviews/avowed-review/93230.html] > > ------------- > > Eurogamer.pt [https://opencritic.com/outlet/832/eurogamer-pt] - Bruno Galvão [https://opencritic.com/critic/6156/bruno-galv-o] - Portuguese - 3 / 5 [https://www.eurogamer.pt/avowed-review-action-rpg-pouco-epico-mas-divertido] > > ------------- > > EvelonGames [https://opencritic.com/outlet/929/evelongames] - Joel Isern Rodríguez - Kaym [https://opencritic.com/critic/10930/joel-isern-rodr-guez-kaym] - Spanish - 7.8 / 10 [https://evelongames.com/analisis-de-avowed] > > ------------- > > Expansive [https://opencritic.com/outlet/402/expansive] - Laurie Jones [https://opencritic.com/critic/2632/laurie-jones] - 4 / 5 [https://expansivedlc.com/avowed-is-a-scaled-back-successor-to-skyrim-enriched-with-gripping-story-lively-environments-and-compelling-combat/] > > ------------- > > Explosion Network [https://opencritic.com/outlet/654/explosion-network] - Dylan Blight [https://opencritic.com/critic/5629/dylan-blight] - 9 / 10 [https://explosionnetwork.com/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > GAMES.CH [https://opencritic.com/outlet/762/games-ch] - Benjamin Braun [https://opencritic.com/critic/4867/benjamin-braun] - German - 79% [https://www.games.ch/avowed/test/review-ljjgf/] > > ------------- > > GRYOnline.pl [https://opencritic.com/outlet/559/gryonline-pl] - Przemysław Dygas [https://opencritic.com/critic/10208/przemys-aw-dygas] - Polish - Unscored [https://www.gry-online.pl/recenzje/avowed-recenzja-gry-kapitalne-rpg-dzieki-ktoremu-odzyskalem-zaufa/zf46da] > > ------------- > > GameOnly [https://opencritic.com/outlet/912/gameonly] - Daniel Kucner [https://opencritic.com/critic/10765/daniel-kucner] - Polish - 8 / 10 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFWGNhig2h8] > > ------------- > > GameSpot [https://opencritic.com/outlet/32/gamespot] - Alessandro Barbosa [https://opencritic.com/critic/1228/alessandro-barbosa] - 6 / 10 [https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/avowed-review-too-close-to-the-sun/1900-6418335/] > > ------------- > > Gamer Guides [https://opencritic.com/outlet/733/gamer-guides] - Patrick Dane [https://opencritic.com/critic/3941/patrick-dane] - 84 / 100 [https://www.gamerguides.com/avowed/review] > > ------------- > > Gamers Heroes [https://opencritic.com/outlet/467/gamers-heroes] - Blaine Smith [https://opencritic.com/critic/5094/blaine-smith] - 85 / 100 [https://www.gamersheroes.com/honest-game-reviews/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > Gamersky [https://opencritic.com/outlet/597/gamersky] - 心灵奇兵 [https://opencritic.com/critic/8660/-] - Chinese - 8.5 / 10 [https://www.gamersky.com/news/202502/1884361.shtml] > > ------------- > > GamesFinest [https://opencritic.com/outlet/683/gamesfinest] - Luca Pernecker [https://opencritic.com/critic/10581/luca-pernecker] - German - 8 / 10 [https://gamesfinest.de/tests/test-avowed/] > > ------------- > > Gaming Nexus [https://opencritic.com/outlet/104/gaming-nexus] - Eric Hauter [https://opencritic.com/critic/4786/eric-hauter] - 8 / 10 [https://gamingnexus.com/Article/14173/Avowed/] > > ------------- > > Geeks & Com [https://opencritic.com/outlet/802/geeks-com] - Anthony Gravel [https://opencritic.com/critic/8061/anthony-gravel] - French - 9 / 10 [https://www.geeksandcom.com/test-avowed/] > > ------------- > > Glitched Africa [https://opencritic.com/outlet/687/glitched-africa] - Marco Cocomello [https://opencritic.com/critic/2466/marco-cocomello] - 9 / 10 [https://www.glitched.africa/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > Hinsusta [https://opencritic.com/outlet/928/hinsusta] - Pascal Kaap [https://opencritic.com/critic/10925/pascal-kaap] - German - 9 / 10 [https://hinsusta.de/avowed] > > ------------- > > IGN Deutschland [https://opencritic.com/outlet/921/ign-deutschland] - Elena Schulz [https://opencritic.com/critic/3634/elena-schulz] - German - 9 / 10 [https://de.ign.com/avowed/145524/review/avowed-im-test-eines-der-besten-rollenspiele-kommt-fruh-im-jahr] > > ------------- > > INVEN [https://opencritic.com/outlet/805/inven] - Jaihoon Jeong [https://opencritic.com/critic/8141/jaihoon-jeong] - Korean - 8.3 / 10 [https://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=303018] > > ------------- > > Just Play it [https://opencritic.com/outlet/936/just-play-it] - Yacine Tebaibia [https://opencritic.com/critic/11130/yacine-tebaibia] - Arabic - 8 / 10 [https://justplayit.info/reviews/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > Le Bêta-Testeur [https://opencritic.com/outlet/943/le-b-ta-testeur] - Patrick Tremblay [https://opencritic.com/critic/9708/patrick-tremblay] - French - 10 / 10 [https://www.lebetatesteur.ca/test-avowed/] > > ------------- > > Loot Level Chill [https://opencritic.com/outlet/948/loot-level-chill] - Mick Fraser [https://opencritic.com/critic/572/mick-fraser] - 8.5 / 10 [https://lootlevelchill.com/reviews/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > Lords Of Gaming [https://opencritic.com/outlet/792/lords-of-gaming-] - Mahmood Ghaffar [https://opencritic.com/critic/9312/mahmood-ghaffar] - 8.5 / 10 [https://lordsofgaming.net/2025/02/avowed-review-a-streamlined-high-fantasy-adventure/] > > ------------- > > Manual dos Games [https://opencritic.com/outlet/910/manual-dos-games] - Joao Victor [https://opencritic.com/critic/10745/joao-victor] - Portuguese - 8 / 10 [https://manualdosgames.com.br/review-avowed-pc-xbox-2025/] > > ------------- > > MondoXbox [https://opencritic.com/outlet/794/mondoxbox] - Giuseppe Genga [https://opencritic.com/critic/7638/giuseppe-genga] - Italian - 9.3 / 10 [https://www.mondoxbox.com/recensione/3728/avowed.html] > > ------------- > > MonsterVine [https://opencritic.com/outlet/334/monstervine] - Luis Joshua Gutierrez [https://opencritic.com/critic/10369/luis-joshua-gutierrez] - 4.5 / 5 [https://monstervine.com/2025/02/avowed-review-obsidian-rpg/] > > ------------- > > NextPlay [https://opencritic.com/outlet/897/nextplay] - Brad Goodwin [https://opencritic.com/critic/10643/brad-goodwin] - 7.5 / 10 [https://next-play.com.au/avowed-review-semi-awowed/] > > ------------- > > Nexus Hub [https://opencritic.com/outlet/528/nexus-hub] - Andrew Logue [https://opencritic.com/critic/3996/andrew-logue] - 8 / 10 [https://nexushub.co.za/nexus/review-avowed.html] > > ------------- > > PPE.pl [https://opencritic.com/outlet/642/ppe-pl] - Maciej Zabłocki [https://opencritic.com/critic/8240/maciej-zab-ocki] - Polish - 8.5 / 10 [https://www.ppe.pl/recenzje/363453/avowed-recenzja-gry-obsidian-znow-nie-zawodzi-to-jeden-z-lepszych-rpg-na-rynku-ale-ma-swoje-wady.html] > > ------------- > > Pizza Fria [https://opencritic.com/outlet/915/pizza-fria] - Matheus Feldmann da Rosa [https://opencritic.com/critic/10802/matheus-feldmann-da-rosa] - Portuguese - 7.4 / 10 [https://pizzafria.ig.com.br/analises/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > PowerUp! [https://opencritic.com/outlet/577/powerup-] - Leo Stevenson [https://opencritic.com/critic/3173/leo-stevenson] - 9 / 10 [https://powerup-gaming.com/2025/02/14/avowed-review-xbox-series-x-eora-worlds/] > > ------------- > > Press Start [https://opencritic.com/outlet/491/press-start] - 8.5 / 10 [https://press-start.com.au/reviews/xbox-series-x-reviews/2025/02/14/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > Restart.run [https://opencritic.com/outlet/940/restart-run] - John Carson [https://opencritic.com/critic/8373/john-carson] - Recommended [https://www.restart.run/articles/avowed-review?amp%3Butm_medium=backlink&amp%3Butm_campaign=Aggregators] > > ------------- > > Rock, Paper, Shotgun [https://opencritic.com/outlet/270/rock-paper-shotgun] - Unscored [https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/avowed-review] > > ------------- > > SECTOR.sk [https://opencritic.com/outlet/615/sector-sk] - Táňa Matúšová [https://opencritic.com/critic/5199/t-a-mat-ov-] - Slovak - 8.5 / 10 [https://www.sector.sk/recenzia/39843/avowed.htm] > > ------------- > > SIFTER [https://opencritic.com/outlet/857/sifter] - Gianni Di Giovanni [https://opencritic.com/critic/9150/gianni-di-giovanni] - Worth your time [https://www.sifter.com.au/post/avowed-obsidian-entertainment-xbox-series-x-s-review-console] > > ------------- > > Seasoned Gaming [https://opencritic.com/outlet/451/seasoned-gaming] - Don Lionheart - 8.5 / 10 [https://seasonedgaming.com/2025/02/13/review-avowed-awowed/] > > ------------- > > Shacknews [https://opencritic.com/outlet/62/shacknews] - Donovan Erskine [https://opencritic.com/critic/4485/donovan-erskine] - 9 / 10 [https://www.shacknews.com/article/143074/avowed-review-score] > > ------------- > > Spaziogames [https://opencritic.com/outlet/502/spaziogames] - Italian - 8.3 / 10 [https://www.spaziogames.it/articoli/avowed-recensione] > > ------------- > > Stevivor [https://opencritic.com/outlet/424/stevivor] - Jam Walker [https://opencritic.com/critic/9597/jam-walker] - 7.5 / 10 [https://stevivor.com/reviews/avowed-review-a-game-pass-original/] > > ------------- > > TechRaptor [https://opencritic.com/outlet/329/techraptor] - Austin Suther [https://opencritic.com/critic/5669/austin-suther] - 9 / 10 [https://techraptor.net/gaming/reviews/avowed-review-pillars-of-excellence] > > ------------- > > The Beta Network [https://opencritic.com/outlet/844/the-beta-network] - Anthony Culinas [https://opencritic.com/critic/8928/anthony-culinas] - 8 / 10 [https://thebetanetwork.net/articles/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > The Outerhaven Productions [https://opencritic.com/outlet/335/the-outerhaven-productions] - Jordan Andow [https://opencritic.com/critic/8998/jordan-andow] - 4 / 5 [https://www.theouterhaven.net/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > TheSixthAxis [https://opencritic.com/outlet/68/thesixthaxis] - Dominic Leighton [https://opencritic.com/critic/307/dominic-leighton] - 9 / 10 [https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2025/02/13/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > Tom’s Hardware Italia [https://opencritic.com/outlet/861/toms-hardware-italia] - Andrea Riviera [https://opencritic.com/critic/9207/andrea-riviera] - Italian - 8.5 / 10 [https://www.tomshw.it/videogioco/avowed-recensione-obsidian-sa-come-si-fanno-i-gdr] > > ------------- > > VGC [https://opencritic.com/outlet/821/vgc] - Chris Scullion [https://opencritic.com/critic/4391/chris-scullion] - 4 / 5 [https://www.videogameschronicle.com/review/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > WellPlayed [https://opencritic.com/outlet/382/wellplayed] - James Wood [https://opencritic.com/critic/5294/james-wood] - 6 / 10 [https://www.well-played.com.au/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > Worth Playing [https://opencritic.com/outlet/64/worth-playing] - Chris “Atom” DeAngelus [https://opencritic.com/critic/289/chris-atom-deangelus] - 7.8 / 10 [https://worthplaying.com/article/2025/2/13/reviews/145073-xbox-series-x-review-avowed/] > > ------------- > > XGN.nl [https://opencritic.com/outlet/810/xgn-nl] - Ralph Beentjes [https://opencritic.com/critic/8344/ralph-beentjes] - Dutch - 9.2 / 10 [https://www.xgn.nl/review/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > XboxEra [https://opencritic.com/outlet/758/xboxera] - Jesse Norris [https://opencritic.com/critic/7583/jesse-norris] - 8.8 / 10 [https://xboxera.com/2025/02/13/avowed-review/] > > ------------- > > ZTGD [https://opencritic.com/outlet/97/ztgd] - Ken McKown [https://opencritic.com/critic/1136/ken-mckown] - 8 / 10 [https://ztgd.com/reviews/avowed-xsx/] > > ------------- > > ZdobywcyGier.eu [https://opencritic.com/outlet/869/zdobywcygier-eu] - Paweł Bortkiewicz [https://opencritic.com/critic/9940/pawe-bortkiewicz] - Polish - 8 / 10 [https://zdobywcygier.eu/wp/2025/02/13/avowed-recenzja/] > > -------------

From Jeff Grubb:

And also, to be kind of a shit, I think the complaints about being underleveled and not having the right gear, mostly come from games like these being streamlined to the point where they usually have no friction. The obstacles in this game aren’t just tolerable, they’re the main reason I love it.

I definitely read a review where the reviewer was frustrated that he was underleveled and annoyed that his companions kept yelling at him to upgrade his gear, lol. But seriously, this sanding down of any sort of friction is something that has gotten to me with plenty of games in the past decade, so I appreciate someone laying it out plainly.

The thing to understand is that reviews are inherently subjective. Decade(…s?) ago, Kieron Gillen wrote a pretty famous manifesto where he basically compared game reviewing to travel writing.

When you are booking a holiday, you don’t care how many grains of sand are on the beach. You probably don’t care too much about the average flow rate of cars on the highway during rush hour. What you care about is whether you will enjoy it.

For some? That means there being plenty of museums. For others it is beaches with accessible parking so that you can leave your crap in a rental car. For others still it is nightlife.

And that applies to “friction” as well. Because let’s take a different example. Many people (myself included) criticized Elden Ring for having a grace outside of basically every single boss room. We half joke that people would lose their god damned minds if they had to play Dark Souls 2 where one of the hardest bosses in the game involves fighting your way through a solid wall of Black Knight level enemies every single time. Others think we are fucking stupid for liking Dark Souls 2 (… they are probably right) and that this lets you focus solely on the boss and not memorizing what a weeb in armor is going to do… before you fight the other weeb in armor. And others still will point out that having to run past those enemies or fight one or two helps to “reset” the mind between attempts and avoids being on tilt against a boss.

Just like some people want a beach where everyone is in a bikini and dehydrated like Hugh Jackman on a film set. And others still want somewhere they can relax and maybe surf for a bit.

Which… mostly speaks to Grubb’s problems as a reviewer. As a “game leaks” guy, he is amazing. I think he lacks the drive to be a full on game journo but that is also a function of him working for the company that steals the work of the rest of games media on the regular (Fandom). But he has a VERY long history of giving “spicy takes” where he has a rudimentary understanding of a topic but still feels the need to shit on others unnecessarily. He isn’t the only one but I am increasingly at the point where I can’t tell if that is engagement farming or “Just Jeff Grubb”.

I understand that reviews are subjective. I just found it funny that the characters in the game were shouting the solution to the reviewer’s problems at him for so long that he found it frustrating.

Jeff Grubb’s not-a-review was speaking to exactly the kind of thing that’s important to me in games and why he likes this one so much, which did me a great service, so I’m not sure why you’re shitting on him for spicy takes here, lol.

And good for you if that aligns with your wants (it sure aligns with mine).

But, at its core, it is “stupid games media” rhetoric. If you are in a mad dash to finish a review or even a game guide (Fandom’s gotta eat), you might not have time or even interest to go back track and do ten side quests in the starting area. At which point constantly hearing “you should get a better pistol” is gonna be REAL grating and is arguably bad encounter design. What is described as “no friction” is often designing encounters so that people can do both the critical path (just story quests) and all the side paths. And its why so many games either have continuous encounter scaling or just big levers you can flip (PoE1 and 2 did the latter).

So yeah. I do have a bit of an issue with someone in the games media space (especially at the company that steals the work of the rest of games media…) “be(ing) kind of a shit” to colleagues in a manner that just fuels the same kind of bullshit they constantly put up with on social media.

Whereas a “real” games reviewer learns to… not be a shit? I forget what game it was, but I remember Mortismal basically saying “The level scaling is kind of wonky. If you just do only the main story quests, you are going to have a bad time and you’ll need to really understand the combat systems to progress. But if you do too many side quests, you’ll be overpowered and just run right through everything” (… actually that sounds like PoE1 after the DLCs came out…). Rather than just making fun of other reviewers for not being able to handle “friction”.

Although I will say, in Grubb’s defense: That is also kind of the Giant Bomb style guide. It ignores that the OGs (Ryan, Jeff, Brad, Alex, etc) had fairly strong “games media” backgrounds by the time the site started and knew how to say something inflammatory to get a point across without angering the publishers to the point of losing ad revenue (… okay, Jeff wasn’t quite as good at the last part). But without those old hats to act as editors (and no, Dan doesn’t count), you get situations where “snark” is just shit stirring that feeds the people tormenting the rest of the industry.

Grubb has no ill will toward his colleagues. But there are plenty of them praising games that he and I found disappointing for that sanding down, so I understand frustration when there are reviews knocking down a game for delivering what we feel games “ought to be” doing. You get short snark because it fits better in a character limit. If you want more nuanced opinions of his, they come in podcast form, not written form.

I understand frustration when there are reviews knocking down a game for delivering what we feel games “ought to be” doing.

Yeah… that is a real shit perspective. You are actively “frustrated” that people like things you don’t. That is a very big side effect of the content bubble we all liv ein.

And I say this as someone who has loved squad based tactics since the JA2 and Silent Storm days. I am WELL used to “okay, add about 30% to the metacritic score for anything in that genre” and the like.

Grubb has no ill will toward his colleagues (…) You get short snark because it fits better in a character limit.

Which gets back to what is really “the problem”. It is about building his brand by “lightly ribbing” his colleagues. His colleagues who are perpetually days away from layoffs and who are constantly attacked by the asmongolds of the world who are using the exact same arguments and are glad to say “See, this person gets it. Why can’t they?”.

Its about worker solidarity even amongst competition. It is why so many of his colleagues will make it a point to preface even the skeets with “I get that this probably came from on high but” or would have just removed the “snark” entirely and said something like

I think the complaints about being underleveled and not having the right gear, mostly come from games like these being streamlined to the point where they usually have no friction. The obstacles in this game are the main reason I love it.

Well, yours is certainly one perspective that I don’t share. I’m sorry his post wasn’t polite enough for you, but I promise he is and will continue to be friends with all of these people afterward; it’s a small industry and only getting smaller.

While several reviews are knocking the game for things that he and I find not only to be non problems but in fact solutions, I found value in him sharing that perspective coupled with a negative review detailing the opposite, which is why I put it here.