Marco ZeheFeb 13, 2025
A poll for all #blind #VoiceOver #Mac users out there who do coding. Which code editor are you using? Boost OK for further reach...
Visual Studio Code
44.4%
Panics Nova
8.9%
TextMate
5.6%
Other, see comment
41.1%
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Show threadM@ Bntn 🗽Feb 13, 2025
@marco have you tried https://zed.dev/ (overlook the AI hype)? I wonder how it fairs for blind users, as a new, cross-platform product.
Zed — Love your editor again

Zed is a high-performance, multiplayer code editor from the creators of Atom and Tree-sitter.

Zed
Show threadmikiFeb 13, 2025
@bntn @marco Zed is completely inaccessible for now because it uses GPU rendering instead of native controls.
Show threadM@ Bntn 🗽Feb 13, 2025

@miki @marco Ah, so it’s because the controls are being rendered inside the “sandbox” of a graphical output instead of native system controls being used? (Sorry for the layperson speak)

That’s disappointing, and seems like a big software design hurdle to shift from now, if they decide to do the right thing and support accessibility.

Show threadM@ Bntn 🗽
@miki Also, I wonder if this highlights the feat that @mitchellh has done with Ghostty, using native controls on different platforms. I hope that means Ghostty is able to support accessibility!
Feb 13, 2025 at 2:46pmWeb
Show threadMitchell HashimotoFeb 13, 2025
@bntn @miki Its still a challenge, but yes, we plan on doing AX support. We have a discussion about it and a solid roadmap (though, not assigned to any version). Our AX support will be macOS-only though, because the availability of accessibilty APIs for graphical Linux applications is abysmal.
Show threadM@ Bntn 🗽Feb 14, 2025

@mitchellh Glad to hear it is being addressed on macOS, and sad to hear the situation on Linux. I think I’ve seen @aral raising a stink over accessibility limitations over there.

Please prioritize shipping these 🙏🏻

Show threadAral BalkanFeb 14, 2025

@bntn @mitchellh Yeah, I’m back to using a Mac as my daily driver after six years on Linux because of this.

This was the last straw: https://ar.al/2024/06/23/fedora-has-been-shipping-with-a-broken-screen-reader-for-nine-years-but-the-real-problem-is-me/

Fedora has been shipping with a broken screen reader for nine years but the real problem is me

Fedora has an ableism problem but woe to you if you point it out.

Aral Balkan