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Chemical WonkaDegoogled since 2018
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GrapheneOS with used Pixel
“degoogle” - uses Google phone
It’s a funny irony but a Pixel with GrapheneOS is the gold standard for mobile device security. Buy it secondhand and cut out their profit.
the_weezSure, sure. As long as you can trust Google’s custom silicon and custom security processor.
I sure as fuck don’t, regardless of what Graphene OS claims. They are going to need to go to much greater lengths to assure me of that, and I can pretty much guarantee the Graphene devs won’t be able to do that.
What’s the alternative?
Honestly? In 2025? In the real world?
Apple is the only alternative. And it really actually hurts my soul to type this reply out.
I hate Apple. I think they are clowns. I hate closed platforms, and I think Mac’s are trash because of it. I have used every single version of Android. All of them, even pre-stable.
The only alternative to Google is 2025, in regards to a mobile OS that works with my services and devices that I already own is iOS. The only way to get that is to buy a phone from Apple. And ‘normies’ care VERY MUCH about being able to use their already purchased shit.
I wish Europe or Asia would actually try to compete against US big tech. It’s a very strange marketplace, nearly the entire planet trusts US companies with basically their entire infrastructure. The only major players in computing are US based companies, aside from MAYBE Canonical/Ubuntu.
In the mobile market, I don’t see a way out of the duopoly at the current moment. If my phone died today I would replace it with an iPhone. And I wouldn’t be happy about it.
My choice is to just not have a smartphone. Something like an old Nokia is what I use, CatB40 specifically but the company licensed to make those no longer exists. I hope Cat find someone else and they still make a line of dumb phones not just smartphones but I don’t really expect it any time soon.
If mine dies probably just get a regular dumbphone for like £10.
That’s super cool for you. If I didn’t work in IT I might try to achieve something similar.
But honestly suggesting that the average person on the street go back in time almost 20 years in regards to their mobile device is just going to get you laughed out of the room.
Do you use mobile banking? Do you carry a camera around with you at all times? Do you listen to music?
For me music is a big one, I’m not listening to any god damned radio commercials and I don’t have CD player in my car anymore. How would you entertain yourself on a long car ride alone in this scenario?
Do you have any IoT or smart home devices? How do you interact with them?
I know a few people that are a bit older than me that don’t ‘get’ smartphones but then use a tablet on the couch pretty often.
My uncle doesn’t have a smartphone, and is kinda smug about it, but also doesn’t really leave the house without his android tablet.
I guess if you don’t actually want to do any computing on the go a dumb phone is fine for short texts and phone calls, but finding one that works with 5G is another challenge these days.
Dumb phones can play music just fine, mine has a 64GB SD card in it, not sure about 5G as it’s still fairly new but can easily get one that use 4G.
For everything else I never used a phone for that anyway. Online banking on PC, IoT can get the fuck off my network and it does have some kind of camera on it but why would I really need one