Anonymous: Trump is making America weaker and we’ll exploit it - News Cafe

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Anonymous: Trump is making America weaker and we’ll exploit it - News Cafe - SDF Chatter

Anonymous: Trump is making America weaker and we’ll exploit it. The international hacker community is preparing to strike against U.S. infrastructure and calls for public awareness against incoming fascism

Don’t need to open Twitter to watch it

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI27LEimfYg

I’m also remembering an IT crowd scene where they argue about which of them is in Anonymous, and I can’t find it now. Does anyone have a link handy? Unless I am misremembering

#Anonymous message to the people of the United States and Trump

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I don’t know if this is the point you’re making, but IIRC, they are a disorganized group, so anybody can claim to be part of them.
Yea I think that was the joke in that scene, but I can’t seem to find a clip of it
Gotcha, I honestly didn’t watch the video, so the joke is now on me.
…unless you’re pretending not to know, and you really are in… IT
It was the very final episode. Sort of a special. That wrapped up the series. Sometimes referred to as season 5. The name of the episode is the internet is coming.
Anonymous Message For The IT Crowd | The Internet Is Coming Final Episode

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Will it be like when they launched a load of DDoS attacks against Sony, of which the only impact was annoying regular people and doing nothing to the company they were supposedly going after?

They have always been techno-punks: anti-establishment and more style than substance. That being said, if nothing else, they were able to shine a light on shitty people and that’s more than most folks do.

I wish they were getting into organizations and dumping gigs of documents detailing illegal and anti-consumer/citizen activities, but money and law enforcement really goes after anything with an actually impact that might affect wealth. No one actually gives a shit about a website being down. (Excepting like… Amazon or Google and good fucking luck with that.)

So it’s like a flaming bag of shit left on a porch. They take care of it and shout “you damn punks!” But if you burn the barn down, every cop in the county will be interrogating everyone they can find until you are caught.

TBH it seems like the Furry community are more effective than Anonymous ever will be.
Thats because anonymous as people actually think about existed for a few years and all the people that did big shit left or turned fed and since then it has been mostly people using the name to get recognition.
You prob complain about protesters disrupting regular people too
“Bloody Just Stop Oil protesters blocking the road, preventing me to go to work just so they can spread the message that we’re all going to die! I HAVE A MORTGAGE!”
They’re all talk and no bite. The world needs fsociety
The world fsociety brought about was shit

The final season they steal all of the money the ruling elites had been using to control the world, ending their grip on society.

Could also be argued that the dark army did the most evil shit and the government siding with the deus group rather than taking the side of the citizens is why things spiraled after wiping out the debt history of everyone.

Elon and the other people pulling the strings on society losing all their money would not be a bad thing for civilization at all

It’s partly due to fsociety actions that things ended like they did. I remember it being actually worse than how it was before
Anonymous is going to attack the American people's infrastructure?
No, they are going to talk a bunch then so nothing. It’s their whole thing.
Well I hope they choose their targets right, otherwise it’ll just make everything worse.
That’s kind of inevitable right now. The most important thing is making sure Trump and the GOP get the blame.
That’s gonna be a big ask. Republicans don’t even get the blame for the things they do themselves. Oligarch propaganda is everywhere and pernicious, look at how the average working class American has accepted the notion that low level bureaucrats are the reason they’re poor.

They’ll blame it on Obama, Hillary, Biden, communism, LGBTQ, Black people, immigrants, etc.

They never take the blame - there’s always an ‘other’ to demonize.

The newest dog whistle is simply DEI. They managed to snuggly clump all their racism and misogyny into a single acronym.
Very true and annoyed at myself for forgetting. Thanks for reminding me.
Under facism dog whistles quickly become crimes

DEI

Donald, Eric and Ivana?

Exploit it you say? Please get in line behind the russians, the chinese snd pretty much all arab countries

What did we do? As if our governments aren’t US vassals? Yet you still demonize us. If Arab governments had any sway our governments wouldn’t be paying tributes and forced to normalize with Israel and host US troops.

The only foreign country that controls US politics and bought US politicians from both major parties is Israel. www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&…

Pro-Israel Recipients

See aggregated party breakdowns and incumbency status of recipients of contributions from Pro-Israel industries/interest groups for every election cycle from 1998 to 2024.

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Next time a blonde haired blue eyed British man named Lawrence comes asking you to rebel against the Ottomans you’ll think twice, huh
There were legitimate grievances, but most Arabs did not rebel against the Ottomans. In fact many more died fighting for it. aljazeera.com/…/the-forgotten-arabs-of-gallipoli
The forgotten Arabs of Gallipoli

At a small but moving ceremony on 8 January, hundreds of Turks marked the 88th anniversary of the end of a famous first world war – Gallipoli.

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Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Egypt have been caught spying on the US (or US citizens) from what I know

Saudi Arabia is allegedly spying on Saudis abroad including in the US. Specifically government critics on social media. Saudi Arabia allegedly spied on its citizens in the US through a network flaw

This is bad and probably violates US laws. But it wasn’t targeting the US or US citizens. Meanwhile, Israel is targeting the US and US citizens: Israel Has Long Spied on U.S., Say Officials

‘New NSA document highlights Israeli espionage in US’

Saudi Arabia allegedly spied on its citizens in the US through a network flaw

Last November, two Twitter employees in the US were charged for allegedly spying for Saudi Arabia. Now, the Arab nation is using flaws in telecommunications network infrastructure to snoop on its own citizens traveling abroad. A whistleblow

TNW | Security

Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Egypt have been caught spying on the US (or US citizens) from what I know

Dude, America has spied on even its allies. The bar is pretty low, here.

The Saudis did not give the Jared billions for nothing. Just remember, the Saudis and Israelis told Bush to invade Iraq and next up is Iran with Putin’s Sock Puppet in charge. It will be a massive cluster fuck.

Leaders in the region fear that the US will turn their countries into another Iraq so they pay up. Don’t confuse tributes for bribes.

Saudi Arabia opposed the invasion of Iraq. It was Netanyahu that went to congress and sold the war to them.

Saudi Arabia’s Steadfast Opposition to the Invasion of Iraq

washingtonpost.com/…/iraq-saudi-arabia-saddam-hus…

Saudi Arabia’s Steadfast Opposition to the Invasion of Iraq - The Media Line

At the start of the 1990s, the late […]

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Crap, I should have typed the 1st Gulf War and Bush Sr. You are correct about the 2nd invasion, the Saudis did not want Iraq fractured and the Shite’s gaining power through Iran.

In the first Gulf War it was out of necessity. Iraqi troops invaded Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khafji

Even today, other than wealth, Saudi Arabia is a much smaller country than Iraq with half its population -Saudi Arabia’s population figures are inflated since over 40% are foreigners-. In 1991 Iraq was much stronger, and much more self sufficient, it could have taken Saudi Arabia in days if it weren’t for the coalition forces.

Battle of Khafji - Wikipedia

-Saudi Arabia’s population figures are inflated since over 40% are foreigners-.

That’s not inflated, they’re still part of the population…

Maybe they don’t count temporary residents like students and foreign worker permit holders?

Also can they likely can’t be drafted / join their army?

Also can they likely can’t be drafted / join their army?

Yeah I guess they wouldn’t be given dog tags or a gun etc, they’d just be given a shovel or similar 😅

You say that as if Iran hasn’t been financing uprisings, Turkey isn’t openly affectionate with multiple opposing world powers, and as if Afghanistan didn’t fall into chaos literally as the USA were leaving.

Iran, for one example, is a prolific cybersecurity adversary of the USA. One of the top four advesaries alongside China, North Korea and Russia. In fact, Iran is believed to be responsible for disclosing a CIA covert channel to China which led to a critical dismantling of CIA assets. I don’t know as much about other Arab states because Iran is most famous for its advanced cyber-warfare capabilities, but honestly, to avoid exploiting the USA would be very foolish.

Obviously this goes both ways. Israel and the USA are infamous for Stuxnet, a computer virus which reportedly destroyed a fifth of Iran’s nuclear centrifuges in the early 2000s.

2010–2012 killing of CIA sources in China - Wikipedia

I just want to confirm that you know that Iranians are not Arabs. Linguistically they are closer to Europeans and Indians.
Sorry, you are correct. I assumed the person you replied to was talking about the whole Middle East region and didn’t think twice for posting.
Don’t forget the billionaires too.
Yes, that’s how exploiting works in those videos.
What makes you think Anonymous isn’t filled with the russians, chinese, and pretty much all arab countries?
If it’s not card carrying white republicans hacking America, we’re going to have a problem with it.
If they actually gave a shit about spreading awareness, they’d find a way to get that video on Fox News, OANN, etc
V for vendetta shit

“America is becoming fascist” makes me cringe.

It cannon become something that it has been for a long time. US was fascist under Clinton, Bush, Obama, first Trump admin, Biden and it keeps on the same track now. It’s less than useless rallying cry when US foreing policy alone in the past 70 years is a realworld example of the thought experiment of “what would have happened if nazi-germany had won WW2”. Genocide, war, coup, and dictatorship galore committed by the United States, especially after the 80s.

In the end what this narrative is about is that precarious middle class liberals fear that even more of the practices that US has been spreading around the world are now coming home and now the US government will gut it’s own people instead of some foreigners. Even this isn’t unprecedented and at worst Trump can only make things worse for some, but for many what they fear is already reality.

Makes me really think if this “Anonymous cell” has any real grass-roots basis or if it’s just the same coup-mongers hiding behind thin leftist veneer to just jump against Trump, who they see as destructive loose cannon to their operations, not as an real opponent. Nothing new for Anonymous name being used in this way btw. Where were they under Biden?

Don’t bother with this troll. They are a fake account made a day ago to rile decent.
To the indigenous people, the US has always been fascist.
Anonymous is bored again? Oh, okay.
Exploit it? The EU thinks they can exploit the chaos? What are they going to do, give us universal health care, a strong safety net, consumer protections, renewable energy and TRAINNNNNNSSSSSSS? (Please, oh please)

Anything supposedly said by “Anonymous” as a hacker group should always be treated with immense skepticism.

There do exist somewhat legitimate sub-factions that actually take serious actions and do serious ops, and also semi-legitimate “outlets” for their statements… but there’s also an overwhelming amount of smokescreen bullshit “anon news outlets” and little script kiddies running around. It’s important/intentional that those continue existing as smoke screen for the more “serious” factions.

Beyond that, being an anonymous group with no real methods of confirming membership to outsiders (insiders can just check if you’re in the private IRCs and etc) it means that just about anyone and everyone can make some big declaration like this. The proof will be in the results, not some announcement that could be made by a rando.

All that said, there’s convincing and considerable evidence (collected by Krebs) that members of Elon’s DOGE group have background in the actual hacking ops spaces.

No matter who is really making these threats/warnings, I think things are going to get pretty dire in the US government IT space. It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security, and now you have a bunch of young adult tech-bros with no true accountability running roughshod over all of it. Then there’s the fact that more than one of them have “serious black hat hacker” backgrounds.

Going to be one wild ride.

Teen on Musk’s DOGE Team Graduated from ‘The Com’ – Krebs on Security

I don’t know about government overall, but the military and HHS have has some of the most stringent security stances I’ve encountered. To the point where just working for them was a massive chore. (How effective they were I guess I don’t know, but working for them sucked.)

That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.

That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.

I mean, it’s not a secret that governments everywhere run really outdated software (think things like Windows 7 and older) because “it works”, so it really shouldn’t be too surprising.

I had to help the SSA implement SAML authentication once and they weren’t even allowed to share their screen so I could see what they were doing. Totally agree that it’s a massive chore.