Lauren WeinsteinOne of the reasons why Evil so often triumphs over Good, is that Good argues endlessly about whether or not its members are "sufficiently good", while Evil gleefully accepts all applicants.
Yazad@lauren I have been agonizing over this, trying to explain this to people - I couldn’t have said it better that how you succinctly put it. I wish people on the Potitical Left (left, liberals, etc) can appreciate this. My heart sinks every time I see some ridiculous meme from someone who prompts to be on the left bashing the illusive liberal or “neo” liberal, almost using the term liberal as a slurs or when someone who identifies as liberal, chastising Bernie supporters. Do we as Americans truly understand the gravity of the situation we’re in? Do people on the left of the political spectrum realize by endlessly cannibalizing their size for not being “sufficiently pure” they are doing immense harm to everything liberals, left and many on the center sympthize and deeply care about. A lot of times folks endlessly arguing and with their own side and criticizing the political candidate that is like 90+% aligned with them they make way for the worst in society. Grow the fuck up people!
Erin@yazad3 @lauren yes, and the same happens with liberals cannibalizing leftists for not being liberals. You name both but blame only leftists for the division, and that’s part of why leftists react the way you’ve described. Liberals spent most of the last 2 years literally telling leftists to stfu and swallow their values, and then lashed out at leftists when Harris lost, even the leftists who voted for her.
Mx VerdaI'd like to add as well that, by and large, the only time I "give up" on someone is when they indicate that my needs and human rights do not matter to them.
My philosophy is "everyone is equal, including whoever you hate, and that one, and the other one".
Equally, just because everyone deserves (in their own time) forgiveness, they do not necessarily deserve it *from you* or *from their victims / survivors*.
Like, there is an amount of self-congratulations minus actually changing ANYthing that prompts me to question someone's motivations:
DO they care about reducing unfairness, or DO they want to be known as someone who says they want to reduce unfairness?
And many people are naturally trusting (not necessarily bad either).
So anyone saying "I want bad things to happen less" is probably a widespread sentiment worth sharing. But stopping there -- and *not even noticing* -- is the problem for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVgNJf6CsBA seems relevant but only just noticed it
