Edit wars over Israel spur rare ban of 8 Wikipedia editors.

https://reddthat.com/post/33698795

Edit wars over Israel spur rare ban of 8 Wikipedia editors. - Reddthat

> Wikipedia’s credibility is under attack from pro-Israel critics and right-wing voices such as Elon Musk

Wikis are unsuitable for anything contentious. Wikis are the solution to the problem of crowdsourcing objective facts, what makes them great is that anyone can add a few (even very obscure) ones; on anything contentious there are way too many, not too few, people wanting to write about them, making the wiki a solution to a nonexistent problem. This news story is yet another example of this.

… and hardly anything is more contentious than Israel/Palestine, which is why wikis work least well for articles on that.

Israel Palestine isn’t contentious when discussing the fact that Israel is genocidal. It is universally agreed by genocide scholars and frankly anyone who has seen what Israel is doing to Palestinians (if one believes Palestinians are people that is).

The only thing that is contentious is that Israel and its supporters don’t like it when people state facts about them.

Israel/Palestine is truly a conflict where no matter what argument you raise (on either side), there is a counterargument.

The argument against yours, for example, is here: …blogspot.com/…/a-really-strange-genocide.html

I am generally very sympathetic to the Palestinians and think the immediate root cause of the present situation is the fact that Israel has been blockading Gaza for more than a decade, not allowing movement in or out of it, which I do not think can be justified by anything. I regularly read the blog I linked to above (yes, I consciously read things I don’t agree with), its author would probably say that the immediate root cause is something Hamas did in October of 2023. Difficult to say how to “neutrally” present that, right?

A really strange "genocide"

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

The response to your link would be: Are Palestinians allowed to use those hospitals in any significant numbers?

This guy also considers the second intifada to be a genocidal campaign (lol what???) so they're too detached from reality to be taken seriously either way.

To commmit a genocide, one needs motive, opportunity and the means to carry out the crime. Hamas has repeatedly stated that killing all the Jews is an objective of theirs. But objectively, they have neither opportunity nor means. Israel, in particular the ruling Likud Party, has satisfied all three preconditions, though.