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It’s almost like it’s a perfect distraction for an easily angered Left. Anything to help deflect from the exec orders and pardons and damned if it doesn’t work painfully well.

With the added bonus of making the Left sound hysterical so as to make persuadable centrist/moderates less likely to listen when there are real actual harms.

Dude played us like a fiddle.

Right, let’s distract from Nazis in the Whitehouse by having a Nazi in the Whitehouse do a Nazi salute.

Did you notice how more than half of voters voted for trump?

Mainstream America doesn’t agree with us on the fascist accusations. Screaming about things with which the majority of voters disagree with us on isn’t a recipe for success and makes them less likely to believe us in future.

More than half of voters did not vote at all this election. Of those who did, both republicans and democrats got less total votes compared to last time.

It’s not that American voters don’t believe that republicans are fascist, I think many are aware of that. They also see the fascist tendencies of Dems, and recognize that for 50 years now, Dems haven’t really done much to improve their material living conditions either. If Dems ever have a chance to do so, there’s always several corpo dems ready to torpedo bills over some nonsense, or the senate parliamentarian won’t let them, or some other bs.

Trump at least said things to his base indicating he recognizes the pain points and promised to address them - even if those more discerning among us realize he will do the opposite, the important political aspect is that he had the right optics by addressing the real issues for the working class. Dems could not be bothered to do this, and instead insisted they wouldn’t change anything, again. And further, made it a point to team up with neocons like Liz Cheney, and kiss billionaire asses like Mark Cuban’s.

So, if you have 2 fash candidates, both courting their rich donors, and one is saying more of the same, while the other is campaigning on fixing your issues and is positioned as a political outsider…why not vote for possible change? Don’t try to blame the voters - the blame for this outcome rests solely with the DNC, and the corruption endemic to politics via legalized bribery.

Lastly, look what happened on day one. A mile long list of executive orders, many of which targeted the issues Trump’s base wanted. Sure, some might not stick, but he actually delivered on those campaign promises on day 1 just like he said he would. When was the last time a democrat ever did something like that for their voters?

About 60% of eligible voters, votes in the 2024 elections (slightly more or less depending on methodology.)

But I think your larger conclusions about voters deciding both parties are fascist is unsupported by reality or evidence.

I’d agree they’ve grown disenchanted but that’s very different. Unless, we’re just in this new stage where anything we don’t like is labelled as fascist.