OpenTech#nonproprietary vs #proprietary
Nowadays which one you will choose?
Texas Technician@echo_xc loops video huh. I'm gonna check it out
@txtechnician loops video is in the testing phase. Now they invited some iphone users. That means loops is not available to the public right now!
@echo_xc yeah I filled in the form at loops.video.
But I saw that the app was only available on iOS.
Which is a big bummer for me.
I'm about as anti-apple as you can get without outright hating it.
Like, I respect them. And I'm grateful for their past involvements in free and open source technologies (cups). But I absolutely abhor their walled garden approach.
@txtechnician yeah let's just wait. I'm using the android. I like the apple's security layers. But apple doesn't support most of the apps that's not available in the appstore. For android we can download whatever apps we want.
Also we can change the settings of Android if you know ADB commands. We can install new OS like Lineage OS, Ubuntu Touch, etc...
Also we can change the settings of Android if you know ADB commands. We can install new OS like Lineage OS, Ubuntu Touch, etc...
@echo_xc I moved all of my operating systems over to Linux years ago.
I'm really interested in using a Linux phone.
I've seen Manjaro with the KDE plasma mobile.
I just bought my wife a new pixel phone. And she has a pixel 3 which I intend on flashing. Because some of the mobile operating system support that device.
I'm pretty excited to try it out. She's taking her sweet time transferring everything over.
@txtechnician I guess you can try ubuntu touch. Here's the link. Upgrading to ubuntu touch is so simple. There's lots of yt videos related to that.
@echo_xc yeah that's what I was looking to do.
I would have tried this out a whole lot sooner. But I didn't want to buy a different phone.
And I was a long-time fan of Samsung's note series.
All of the mobile Linux distribution supported Samsung Galaxy but they didn't support Samsung Note.
Never did bother to try installing it on any of those notes. I would imagine it would work. But, eh too busy to mess with it.
@txtechnician Yeah, I'm planning to install Linusmint to my pc.
@echo_xc I have two customers that are running Linux Mint. They love it.
And I love it. Because I rarely have to do anything for them.
I run open Suse tumbleweed. But that's because I need the later software.
All of my servers run open Suse leap.
@txtechnician I never heard about that. How is it? Open source? I'm curious to know.
@echo_xc OpenSUSE is the most stable Linux distro out there.
They have this testing method. Called open build service.
Basically it's a virtual machine with a bunch of scripts that go through every package and monitor the resulting screen after every button is clicked.
They are able to automate so much of their testing. And that is why it is the most stable platform out there.
Tumbleweed is a rolling distro. Whereas leap is only updated once a year.
ZeStig 
The only reason I'm running Arch and not Tumbleweed is the AUR.
@zstg I really like zypper. And for stuff thats not in the official repos they have a tool called opi.
Lets you install other packages that are in other open distribution repos. And it also lets you install packages that are from unofficial repos.
So for example, if I needed to install.net the open Seuss team has actually provided the necessary build for installing.net on my system. But it's not in the official repo. It's in the open Seuss maintained official repo.
@zstg and let's be real.
The main reason that you're running Arch is so that you can say:
"I run Arch BTW"
Which if you have a steam deck. You can tell everybody that you run Arch.
I do think that it's pretty cool that steam decided to use Arch as their base distro.
Because there's so many custom distros out there that just use Debian or Ubuntu.
Personally, I found Ubuntu based distributions to be kind of clunky. Like there's nothing particularly wrong with them.just clunky
@txtechnician not really. I've used Tumbleweed a LOT inside VMs. If not Arch and Gentoo, I'd use Tumbleweed over Void. Lovely distro. It's just that I've been using Arch consistently. Perhaps I may hop if/when it breaks. I didn't diss on Tumbleweed. Why would I? It's a decent distro.
@zstg oh, I didn't think that you were dissing on Tumbleweed.
Never really understood why people dish on other distros anyway.
It's just been a running gag for like the past decade for people to say. I run Arch by the way.
Not entirely sure why that became a thing but it is.
I do feel like suse distributions don't get as much. Love as what Fedora or debian-based do.
I went from pop. To Ubuntu. To rhel, and then found my home in Tumbleweed. My servers are all leap