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Lemmy

Luigi’s arms and hair did nothing wrong
The hair is fine, but those arms in orange are crimal honey…
To the 11 people who down voted this: you are idiots.
There’s 18 of them now! They might be breeding under the stairs again…
I can’t downvote (or see downvotes) from my domain.

Absolutely gonna get downvoted for hell for this but he killed someone. Murder is a crime. He’s a criminal. Whether you think the person he killed deserved it or not is irrelevant, giving a free pass because of that sets an extremely dangerous precedent

I understand people are tense about healthcare and sometimes become emotional but come on man. Do better

Allowing countless to die due to denied insurance claims is already a pretty fucking dangerous precendent going on for years where our leaders did nothing but allow it to happen. We’re pretty far past “dangerous precendent.”
I love how you completely ignored my point and just went back to health insurance, you people are unsavable
I like how you completely ignored the reason why all this has happened so you can nitpock on an argument where you barely have a leg to stand on.
I literally talked about health insurance in the first sentence of the root comment. Can you read?

Ah yes, check my comment history so you can find out that I checks notes… care about the environment that we live in? Biggest gotcha ever.

I am implying that this is not a black and white issue no matter how much you want it to be, you can’t remove an essential part of the equation and state that it’s different that way. That’s the same fallacy as people who say shit like “Gay rights or good economy?” as if they’re mutually exclusive.

You can care about the environment at the same time as not supporting a rabid cult hellbent on ruining daily people’s lives for attention. Just Stop Oil are a cancer that ruin the credibility of all environmental movements.
Health insurance companies are already judge, jury, and executioner. Thousands of people die every year because they can’t afford health insurance and I guarantee I’m not the only one in here who’s had family die that way.
So you have family die from health insurance and your best response is to murder people. I dunno that just seems a little backward
Is killing people for profit not backwards?

Never said it wasn’t

I can have 2 opinions at the same time

0/10 gotcha try again tomorrow

Correct, no one would support Luigi for murdering a homeless person. Support for Luigi is a social proxy. People don’t feel like they can change the system peacefully anymore. When that happens, you’re right, an angry mob can become judge jury and executioner. It is up to the system to reform itself or fail, not the masses to calm down.

By definition of the word, yes.

For all other purposes, no.

Not even by the definition. He’s accused of murder. He hasn’t been proven guilty.

so funny seeing lemmy bounce around “he killed him so good” and “he didnt kill him it hasnt been proven in a court of law!”

It’s either one or the other dood

People can have whatever opinion on whether the shooter was right or not. But the person who modified a gun, shot his target thrice in the middle of a city, left a James Bond style message on the bullets, and rode off into the sunset without leaving a single clear photo on any nearby camera is obviously not the man who got arrested eating a meal in broad daylight with a gun and a written confession conveniently packed in his bag.
We’re getting to conspiracy theory levels of fear here, I’m pretty sure you have less information than the FBI. Just say that you like rich people dying and stop making excuses

“yeah bro he’s a murderer, but he killed someone bad so he ISN’T a murderer!”

No comment

No, he’s accused of killing someone.

Accused with evidence that has a contradictory history over the course of the manhunt.

But he’s not a criminal until he’s convicted by a jury of his peers.

There’s no way you think it’s possible for him to come out of this right? The dude is either going to jail for life or getting the chair

You know how a trial works, right?

He still has to stand trial and be convicted by a trial of his peers.

Even if the evidence is overwhelming, the jury still has to issue a verdict.

It would hardly be the first time there’s a hung jury or even a nullified jury.

You need to learn how the justice system actually works, instead of watching law and order.

In the grand scheme of things he’s going to jail

Jury nullification will not work and if you think it does you are delusional

In the real world people don’t excuse murder because it was a CEO that died

I don’t know if it is morally objectionable to kill a man who is directly responsible for the deaths and suffering of thousands. The murdered piece of shit bragged about using AI to deny claims and he was responsible for the highest claim denials in the industry just so he could make a buck. Fuck that guy. I’m glad he is dead and Luigi is a hero if he did it.

I never said he’s a bad person, just that he’s a criminal.

I’m glad he is dead and Luigi is a hero if he did it.

Absolutely sickening comment and its insane that this is SOMEHOW the ““morally correct”” opinion to have on this platform

…he’s a suspected criminal.
FTFY
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Lemmy

Somehow you are missing the violence that Thompson inflicted on all of his thousands of victims? Maybe you are ok with that because your moral compass is dictated by the state? Or is it ok because they are peasants? Or maybe you are ok with sick people needlessly suffering so this shit eater can have more boat money?

Never said it was ok for the health insurance companies to do what they are doing, they are parasites

Once again you are missing the point that shooting a guy in the street simply exacerbates the problem and doesn’t solve it

You seriously think Luigi’s actions helped people? You think health insurance companies will forget their prime directive because 1 CEO died? In fact this will just make them even MORE greedy because they have the police on their side now and they can be terrible without consequence

If I shoot the Nestlé CEO does that return all the water they stole from Africa? Of course not, and if that happened you people would probably be celebrating that as well

Luigi’s actions have been a net negative to society, and will jusy create more divide between people. What do you think the world would be like if everyone had Luigi’s mindset of “I’m going to kill this person because I don’t like them”. We would be in complete chaos and a warlord would break into your house and either turn you into a slave or kill you in 1 day

I’m not ok with the health insurance industry, but I’m also not OK with shooting people in the street instead of even trying to fix the issue diplomatically. Seems lile everyone has lost their collective minds over this and just default to “Health care bad so we can kill CEOs!!!”. Without ever questioning the overreaching consequences.

The amount of Luigi simping on Lemmy is disgusting and I haven’t said anything until now because I knew this would be the exact response. Adults having the functional capacity of children and refusing to see that this type of rhetoric is going to cause so much violence. Disagree if you want, I’ll happily argue with you because I like arguments, but just know that this type of language is, and has been, responsible for so much suffering and hatred in the world.

The fact that having basic fucking morals is said to be “dictated by the state” is completely mentally inept and it’s wild how people actually think this is GOOD. Shame on you all.

You don’t mourn when the dragon devouring the town is slain, you celebrate.

What if we slayed it by bombing the entire town, do we still celebrate?

5/10 gotcha try again tomorrow

Show me the bombed town. What a strange comment, as if we all didn’t clearly see what happened: one executive died.
The bombed town is the amount of people shamelessly promoting senseless violence
Legitimately the stupidest comment I’ve read all week.
Pearl clutcher = saying murder is bad Thank you for this completely brain dead comment

No you disingenuous dick, the pearl clutching is because the supposed “bombed city” you referred to us by your own admission literally just chatter.

You’re being a fear-mongering charlatan.

he killed a murderer, I wouldn’t consider that a crime. it’s just really slow self defense
so if i have my taxes misdone and i bomb the IRS building and steal all the money inside, its just really slow tax return

We prefer to stop people like Brian Thompson, whose killed and tortured tens of millions by weaponizing boring insurance policies, peacefully.

For the sake of those tens of millions, it’s going to stop. Let’s push for the peaceful option, with the understanding that it will be stopping one way or another. Hopefully the peaceful way works, and we’ll keep doing everything we can to ensure that it does.

Lets’s push for the peaceful option

While you’re shilling for a murderer, that’e some level 9000 cognitive dissidance that even lunduke would be proud of

I disagree with you here. Many people already fought and pushed for the peaceful option in the last decades. Also just for clarification: this isn’t a struggle for wealth or glory - this is a fight about literal human life’s. And I will be honest with you, if one person who has committed terrible actions dies, but as a result many more people can live (see the Bluecross reversal), it is difficult for me to say that it is a cognitive dissonance to fight for the peaceful option and to accept that violence may be necessary here.
Read my big comment later down

Hmm, I think your position is well-founded. I agree - shooting people usually created division and doesn’t solve the underlying problem. However, that doesn’t mean that it has to be like that in every case.

I personally propose to wait a few years before judging. It is very against the spirit of the Internet, but you raise a valid point - there is very good ground to suspect it will have negative consequences.

I’m not gonna say that murder is right or anything. But, people in power can and often will threaten other people with their lives and get away with it. Elon Musk is a good example of that. Yes, we don’t know have any proof of him killing people, but he can casually and “as a joke” say that other people should be assassinated.

The problem isn’t that a CEO was killed, the problem is that it has gotten to that point, where so many people get killed overall, and the big powerful people don’t give a fuck. But when suddenly someone “important” gets killed, then it’s a big problem.

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Thank you for being the only rational person in this thread

Whether you think the person he killed deserved it or not is irrelevant, giving a free pass because of that sets an extremely dangerous precedent

It’s just patently absurd. It’s an angry mob. They probably didn’t even know the victim. They could turn on you, me, or each other.

I get the sentiment, and yes rule of law is what we should strive for.

But if somebody murders an active serial killer, my internal desire for practical improvements to human well being keeps me from getting too upset about it.

And yes it’s illegal, and if the system is working as intended, the assassin will go to prison. Maybe the people intervene via jury nullification, maybe not. But if conditions are bad enough, individuals can choose to live as a hero in prison rather than as a desperate anonymous poor person.

I don’t want to see children lose their parents even if their parent is a scumbag CEO, but I want human civilization to heal and flourish even more.

Luigis shoulders are innocent!!
I think it is funny that this is like this, but I think it would be funnier if it was just Eric Adams highlighted.
If the cop is partially in the same square as Luigi, do I check it?
I guess we’ll see what our AI overlords decide
Remember all these laws that invaded privacy under “fighting terrorism”? Now you are the terrorists.
Should have been extra checks over Adam’s box