NegativeNullTime to stir the pot
finleyMy name is not ‘Data,’ it’s ’Data.’
Zachariahit’s pronounced “gif”
It is pronounced gif and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
And mana is mana, not mana.
There’s a different mana?
Mah-na vs man-ah
One is my name. The other is not.
FuglyDuck
I still have never been able to see white and gold
AlbumOne day we’re going to figure out why and all other forms of prejudice will cease to exist and be replaced with the one true differentiator of human quality.
I can only see the white/gold when it’s color-corrected like this, and I think some people just have some form of auto-exposure correction in their minds. If I remember correctly, the original photo is the one on the right.
Original photo is the left one but the right depicts the proper colors.
Shit now I’m questioning my entire reality…
What’s funny is, color-correcting should remove yellow/white light, making it MORE blue/black
Lucy :3What’s that to you:
blue and black. Don’t see how it could be white 🤷♀️
And I don’t see how it could be blue and black…
Well, ok, that’s not entirely true, I can see how in GIMP:
The colors are basically exactly in between white/gold and blue/black respectively.
And I can see a very, very faint blue tint on the white, just as it “should be”, according to GIMP. But it doesn’t click to another color entirely for me, especially not pitch black and dark blue.
It doesn’t look like dark blue. Which is interesting-- the color it appears as is about as far from dark blue as it is from white. But, correcting for the harsh glare, it’s blue (as we now know it really is).
Oh, I assumed dark blue and pitch black because of the image in the post.
And it’s debatable wherever that can be considered blue or gold. Both are objectively very faint/light, apparently.
What I mean is, the physical dress is blue+black
NelotsThe image on the right is a recreation of what it would have looked like if the lighting wasn’t the way it was.
Here’s an actual image of the real colors.
socsaIt's blue and black
What about in the left in OP?
At the top of the left one I could definitely see why people would think the black part is gold due to the lighting and exposure. I’ve never been able to grasp how people see white though, for me it’s like saying a bluebird sky is white.
Thanks. Simply by looking at this image, I was able to finally see it in blue and black. Once I focused on the color of the illumination, I was able to start seeing it correctly. And then I can switch back to seeing it in white and gold by zooming in completely on the black/gold section for a second.
The image actually explains how people see white as well. Both the white and blue sections inside of the colored squares are the exact same color.
That is a great image.
AidoI think Lemmy can handle the original image
Well, I can’t say I’m surprised lol.
underiskits because the background gives the impression of bright yellow incandescent lighting but in order to see the dress as white gold you have to assume it’s under entirely different (low diffuse white) lighting conditions than the rest of the image implies
SoleInvictusThere’s a great video on how effects like these work.
SkunkWorkzIsn’t it because your brain assumes the dress is in the shadow and only lit by the ambient light from the sky. Hence why the brain color corrects the blue to white since ambient light from the sky is slightly blue. And brownish grey become goldfish.
Yeah my best guess is it’s being lit from sunlight under shade, cloud cover, or possibly a skylight. I doubt it has much to do with an intuitive understanding of rayleigh scattering and more just that your brain would have more temporal context and a wider visual field to model the lighting with than what the image gives you. The floor and the ceiling would be blue in your peripheral and you’d have more angles and depth perception to work with so the distance between and relative strength of the yellow light and white light source would be more obvious.
RexiosI still have never been able to see blue and black
ClinicallydepressedpoochieSomeone down voted you bro. This world is crazy.
In contrast, I have never been able to see blue and black, even though that’s objectively what it is.
RebekahWSDSame. Hated it at the time because “but is clearly black and blue” with me just getting upset because it doesn’t matter what it objectively is, I’m being asked what I’m seeing and it’s only white and gold for me. And still is.
I dreamed of throwing all those dresses into the sun
MinnesotaGoddamEver since I learned it was blue and black my brain won’t let me see it as white and gold or whatever anymore
The dress on the left has put in amazing service over the years, and even it’s getting a bit threadbare it can be a nice part of the right ensemble. The one on the right seems great in drawings and text descriptions, but just sorta hangs there limply once it’s actually delivered.
I’m guessing the dude on the right is a Voss, but what’s the one on the left? Just really pale?
Possibly linuxThis comment needs a trigger warning
Definitely not colourful enough for a Voss
The one on the right is Thrawn
They’re the same picture
EpzillonStg i saw gold/white on left first, then after looking at the right one for a bit it just switched to the classic blue/black ive always seen. I hate this picture so damm much
I see a black/blue on the right and a dusty black/blue on the left.
TheEmpireStrikesDakThe only time I could see it as white/gold was the first few times I watched this video: m.youtube.com/watch?v=xLxVZ8W-aHY
It’s been a while, maybe I’ll try again.
How to see The Dress BOTH ways (Black & Blue or White & Gold) | Toy Life
Oh hey, I just listened to a thing about this!
YANSS 303 – What we can learn about perception, priors, and truth itself from the party dress that sparked a global debate over the nature of reality
In this episode we return to The Dress and the psychological lessons offered by one of the most viral moments in the history of the internet via an episode of Decoder Ring in which David McRaney sh…
Yes we already know morning people are brain damaged
especially because they view getting up early as some sort of badge of honor, while everyone who dares to follow their own natural circadian rhythm is some lazy good-for-nothing. You’re not special for sleeping during a a different time of the day, get over yourself.
They really are just sooooo full of themselves, some of them. Not all of course, but especially when you get them in a work environment they act like their way is the only way. Which is especially funny since that damages the learning ability of kids. 9-5 tends to force 730-2, give or take, school schedules, and children are especially susceptible to harm from waking up that early. To this day the earliest I have ever woken up consistently was grade school.
My gripe is that night owls are supposed to be quiet so we don’t disturb the morning larks’ slumber, but larks can be as loud as they want in the morning cuz they gotta wake themselves up and also fuck you for being so selfish sleeping in past 7:00.
This picture made me feel incredibly weird. I see blue and brownish - we can call it gold. Like, I see the same colors you’ll see if you do an average color extraction over the image using an image processor. There’s no color illusion for me at all.
The whole world went mad in two camps and I’m in neither.
JackbyDevYou’re in the blue and black camp. I get what you mean, it’s sort of a yellowish brown, but that’s why the illusion is there in the first place. Some people’s brains adjust it to a more yellow color instead of more of a black/dark brown.
I appreciate your answer. But aren’t you just in my camp, maybe? If people in the blue/black camp see a yellowish brown, why do they call it black? And why do they insist it’s the only way the image could be interpreted?
What struck me about the whole thing was how people seemingly could not fathom how the colors could be seen as anything other than what they personally saw/interpreted. Were most of them exaggerating, do you think?
But aren’t you just in my camp, maybe?
Yeah, the blue/black camp.
No, I don’t think people were exaggerating. It’s a very weird optical illusion that branches to different outcomes for people. I was only ever able to see the white/yellow once by looking at it upside down and slowly revealing more of the dress from the bottom. Other illusions like that spinning ballerina are easier to flip in your mind or at least understand why people see it the other way. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinning_dancer
But I just wouldn’t call that black. Because… it isn’t. The color is sort of muddy and brownish. So I don’t understand why everyone in ‘my’ camp insist on calling it black and nothing else, if that is really what they also see. Especially when there’s a whole bunch of other people calling the same color yellow. Anyway, I think some things about this will remain mysterious to me.
So the colors in the image are 100% light blue and brown. However, the brown is the same brown as faded black clothing. Given the context clues of that faded black color, the faded blue color, and the lighting situation in the background, it can be inferred that the dress is a blue and black dress under harsh warm light. I don’t think anyone has ever seen a deep black or blue in the image, I think it’s just some people’s brains are better at picking up the signs of hash warm light than others.
I have never been able to see that colors as gold/white, because the background doesn’t imply that the lighting would tint the white that blue. It would be pretty complicated a setup to get the background to look like that while the foreground is both shaded and hit by cool bounce lighting. Whereas it’s easy to imagine it as a room that has a lot of morning/afternoon sunlight coming in a window.
By saying that you see brown and definitely not black suggests that you are also unable to pick up the details that reveal the lighting situation.
Because your eyes can adjust the image one of two directions, lighter or darker. It’s just that the people started saying “blue and black” before/more often than “blue and dark brown” or something. Plus it’s just easier to say.
Because we’re used to seeing badly backlit photos and our brain processes that as “black under different light”?
I never really thought much of it just a ‘huh, it looks white ans gold to me’ then i realized ive had a blue light filter on my computer and phone for a long time and its heavily skewed into red. Turns out turning that off helped me see it as blue and black. Who knew