miskDragon Age: The Veilguard game director Corinne Busche reportedly leaves BioWare
rabberYa people play video games to escape these politics. Glad to see this game fail miserably
What politics?
forbes.com/…/dragon-age-the-veilguards-clumsy-pre…
It will undoubtedly turn many gamers off entirely, not necessarily because they’re unsympathetic to trans rights, but because they’re tired of being preached at.
Snowflakes are so upset that they have to see or interact with LGBTQ character(s) in video games, because to them their very existence is “political.”
Same as saying a game is “political” because there’s a black person in it.
The entire series has some pretty heavy handed messaging.
BjörnThe game is bad because of bad writing not because of politics.
BG 3 is even more “woke” and it’s great.
Woke is fine if it doesn’t break immersion. In BG3 it feels like part of the in game universe. In dragon age it feels like it was just forced in like “hey look how progressive we are” and it’s just very tiresome
The whole game has bad dialogue. It sounds stiltet or like a bad Marvel movie no matter what they talk about.
Also, including gay characters is only political if it is something you object to. Are black characters also political?
The problem is blatant references to the real world in a fantasy game
So it sounds like the problem with the game is shitty writing. Not anything about it being “political.”
Breaking the fourth wall, and/or getting meta is nothing new to video games (or like, literally any other form of media). Some people like it, some people don’t.
But that is not a political issue.
including gay characters is only political if it is something you object to. Are black characters also political?
Exactly. I’m never even aware of these controversies until I see people whining about it online, because a gay or trans character in a video game means literally nothing to me. Why would I care?
And there are people that it does matter to; representation in media is important. So that’s just all positives and no negatives in my mind.
Also makes for more variety in plots and settings. Win/win/win.
SoleInvictusThings that break immersion for some gamers:
Main character isn’t a white cishet male
NPCs that don’t reinforce the primacy of white cishet males
Acceptance of non-cis/het people in a story involving fantasy creatures that is otherwise totally believable, well-written, and, above all, where only this scene is clumsily delivered (and not the fact the supporting character’s hat appears to be a folded bird)
No sarcasm in the third point at all.
Otherwise well written? This game is trash. Go replay an older dragon age if you forgot what good writing is
I made a mistake: point three was dripping with sarcasm, so I followed with a line meant to highlight this, but I unthinkingly wrote it in the same highly sarcastic manner.
Do you actually just assume random people are racist for zero reason in your day to day life?
I have no idea what you’re trying to infer. Please tell me this isn’t a prelude to “all racism has some truth to it”.
Like which gamers exactly are upset about non white npcs?
I don’t understand the relevance of bringing up race here unless you meant to infer that’s something which bothers me in games
I’ve been working on being more civil online, so be assured the following is a much kinder response than that which I was initially inclined to:
🤡
I’m honestly unsure what you’re upset about lol
Anyone who thinks I’m a dunce is simply upset. Reading is hard and I don’t know what the words mean!
FTFY
I didn’t have to vet your profile at all to figure out you’re worth blocking.
You are the toxicity on lemmy
Someone disagreed with me, they’re toxic! 🤡
The game is bad because it’s repetitive and just not fun to play, which are design flaws.
I’ve been having fun with it but I wanted a hack and slashy fantasy game that wasn’t depressingly “souls like”. This kinda scratches that itch.
The taash bits are a little on the nose sometimes with the gender stuff but it’s really not a big deal or a lot of the game.
I really like the deep lore of the game though I haven’t played any of them since like the first one or two. I like how the dialogue “feels” but I don’t think there is much of an impact on how you behave other than key events, and sometimes there’s a little too much dialogue, but it does seem to flow like real conversations with good voice acting a lot better than other rpgs I’ve played. And it’s beautiful, the maps are sandboxy but layered. Some stuff is time gated so I’ll be trying to figure out how to get somewhere only to give up and it be available later.
Anyway I’d give it like a 7 or 8 at this point
Skullgridexactly, which is why politics free games like assassins creed and call of duty sell like hotcakes…
wait, Ass cree is a series about political intrigue throughout history and call of duty is about warfare as a result of political goals.
Are you sure people play games to escape politics?
Yeah I think video games are primarily used as escapism
You know people play cod because they like the 6v6 arcade shooter mode, not for the story or the campaign
ScrubblesYeah uh what the hell was Mass Effect and the Witcher if not extremely political. You could be a genocidal Shepard remember, you could let the entire council die and push for a human only version. Most people who cry out “it’s woke” just have never put it together before.
Yeah but those aren’t the same on the nose reminder of real life politics that dragon age is guilty of
LGBTQ people existing in video games is only “political” if you’re a bigot. It’s really that simple.
There are lots of games who have LGBT that literally nobody has a problem with. BG3 is good example
This one is alright, it’s “one of the good ones”.
*honk honk*
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It’s like they don’t even think.
Then there’s The Last of Us Pt. 2. One of the best narrative games I have ever played, and probably the best of that year (I don’t remember what else came out).
Remember how that one turned out? I’m pretty sure at least one voice actor was getting literal death threats for voicing a non gender-conforming main character… Just think about how fucking stupid that is for a moment.
Good dog
Every comment in your history is negative. Blocked.
Well trained
starman2112“People play Dragon Age to escape politics” lmao you clown
They don’t play it to be lectured on politics that’s for sure. The sales speak for themselves lol
Yeah, definitely it was because of your issues and not just because it was a bad game. How did disco Elysium gross 84 mil being such a political game, again? Helldivers 2? Cyberpunk? Rdr? Metal gear? Fallout? Deus ex? Papers please?
C’mon… I’ve never heard of a good game being unpopular because of its politics… are there any?
Bf5 and bf2042 were largely rejected by the entire gaming community due to similar shit. It’s not about politics but more like virtue signaling I suppose
They were rejected because they were broken at launch you moron. This whole “go woke go broke” bullshit falls apart when Baldurs Gate 3 was as successful as it was.
Nobody preordered bf5 because of the trailer. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb1MR85XFOc
Battlefield 5 Official Reveal Trailer
Ya people play video games to escape these politics.
Speak for yourself
What’s most laughable is they’re clearly unaware of the political themes in the games they’ve listed as nonpolitical. I’m torn between them being an absolute doorknob that is outraged by whatever outrages their in group, or them being an absolute doorknob that only just began to comprehend the simplest of video game plots and is outraged every aspect doesn’t match their myopic worldview.
Because you apparently missed the parts of Dragon Age 1, 2, and 3 where you are involved in heavily ethical government decisions? And that’s on top of the heavy messaging about abuse of power by mortal leaders that starts literally from the first few minutes of DA1.
Games with literal politics as integral parts of the plot, and the thing that melts these snowflakes is the existence of a gay person. Something that’s only “political” if you’re a complete piece of shit.