They're rare, but they're unfortunately here

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They're rare, but they're unfortunately here - Lemmy.World

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Tankies are right wing. Watch them make excuses for Russia and say NATO should pull out of Ukraine. Watch them say a Trump presidency is better than the alternative.

Tankies are factually left-wing. Their actions, however, sometimes play into the deck of right-wingers when they try to fuck around with the system.
Stalin criminalised homosexuality with a punishment of five years prison labour. Go ahead and repeat that fact on Hexbear, and see how many “radical leftists” are willing to make excuses for a homophobe

Stalin is a conflicting historical figure, who is neither a monster nor a savior, and so the way you describe him would differ depending on the angle of the conversation.

If the talking point is the rights of the LGBT+ people (or, really, people’s rights overall sometimes), there’s no excuse for him there, and I’m pretty sure Hexbear is not quite the place for a homophobic rhetoric.

But they may point out in other terms that under Stalin’s rule the economy got insanely boosted, the WW2 was won, and many megaprojects used to this day were constructed.

You could say the same things about Churchill who certainly wasn’t left wing.
You can’t say the same things about Churchill, there was no massive equalisation of wages in England during his rule, nor a planned economy guaranteeing a job to anyone who wanted a job, nor a collectivisation of agriculture and of the means of production, nor a state-backing of unions, nor an immense push towards literacy and women’s rights and education…

Equalisation of wages in the USSR: Lets lower all wages to the lowest of them all and introduce corruption as an obligation to survive!

Handy tool against dissidents too, corruption.

Regarding corruption, I made a little writeup a while ago about why corruption is systematically overestimated in the USSR which, if you’re arguing from good faith, you won’t have a problem checking out.

Regarding “lowering wages”, you’re simply wrong. That’s just from the 60s, but material wealth of people rose at unparalleled speed in the USSR, faster than any country before that. And when the USSR economy stagnated in the 70s, real median wages kept rising at around 3.5% yearly

Ha ha ha corruption was baked in the system, ask anyone who actually lived there and don’t get your information from facebook or lemmy ml.

I wonder why you push so hard for this revisionism, it was just a brutal dictatorship, wages went up under Hitler too lol.

I sourced my information, you can do the same instead of disregarding it because it doesn’t match your ahistorical, uneducated, vibes-based conception of history