Hot take: "HTML is a programming language" is gatekeeping in effect, if not in intent.

That is, something need not be a programming language to be a the subject of highly useful and important technical skills — viewing all of computing through the lens of programming languages is inherently limiting.

@xgranade perhaps so. huh.
@xgranade see, it's the "if not in intent" that makes this not really that incendiary. we do appreciate that.
@xgranade it also does feel kind of like it was fighting the last war. we're not sure people, like...... write html anymore ><
@ireneista You're not wrong... I've also seen that discourse this very week, so the last war still seems to rage on somehow.