🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)Jan 15, 2025

I'm really disappointed that @protonprivacy CEO, Andy Yen, is a Trump supporter.

Proton has created some of my favorite privacy-protecting apps & services, and I regularly recommend their products to people, but I'm hesitant to send money in their direction now, as I'm not sure what it'll go to support.

Trump has made it clear that he gives zero fucks about the safety of BIPoC people, women, LGBTQIA rights, and trans folx in particular. And every dollar that gets contributed to that fascist dictator is a dollar that might be earmarked for my eradication.

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Taken together, the following sources convince me that I'm correct in believing Andy Yen is pro-Trump:

- https://proton.me/blog/trump-control-nsa-privacy

- https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660

- https://x.com/andyyen/status/1812442643726537182

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That said, I don't think there's a reason to flee Proton just yet. Let's see if there's a response to this from @protonprivacy.

Also, as pointed out, Proton has built their products and policies to be resistant to shit like bad politicians or CEO that supports them. And while I don't think "neutrality" is a defensible stance when faced with a genocide-happy dictator, I think the risk to the Proton Foundation and Proton's products isn't critical at present.

#Proton #BIPoC #LGBTQ #Trump

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Show threadCode of Amor 💘Jan 15, 2025
@alice @drwho @protonprivacy I'd be more inclined to send funds to European services in political safe havens.
Show threadThe DoctorJan 15, 2025
@codeofamor @alice @protonprivacy Are there any?
Show threadCode of Amor 💘Jan 15, 2025
@drwho @alice @protonprivacy I did research on it a long while back and yes, there are. But ultimately I ended up hosting my own mail server so didn't go down that path.
Show threadCalamity Joan 😷Jan 15, 2025
@codeofamor @drwho @alice @protonprivacy Can you remember any of those providers? Asking for moi.
Show threadCode of Amor 💘

@clickhere @drwho @alice @protonprivacy I could not, so I did some digging for you anyway, and here are the providers I would start with to narrow down the most suitable ones for me, if I was looking. Ones marked with an asterisk are those that I vaguely recall being on my original research list:

Points to consider for each are features/restrictions/allowances, pricing, security practices, jurisdiction of data storage, how well they are ranked by security professionals, and others. I hope this helps with a starting point.

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Show threadCalamity Joan 😷Jan 15, 2025
@codeofamor @drwho @alice @protonprivacy Oh! Thank you so much. 😀🥹 And YES, that Posteo one sounds amazing - I want to work there!
Show threadCode of Amor 💘Jan 15, 2025
@clickhere @drwho @alice @protonprivacy 🥰😊🚲
Show threadCode of Amor 💘Jan 15, 2025
@clickhere @drwho @alice @protonprivacy Oh. Hahahah. How fortuitous! I have just read that you are a bicycle lesbian. Which to me, screams "ride me" but I presume means something more like "I use/love spoked two-wheeled transport" 😁😊
Show threadThe DoctorJan 15, 2025

@codeofamor @clickhere @alice @protonprivacy Hmm. I'll do some research and ask Switchboard when my Proton service renews.

(Spoiler alert: It was yesterday.)

Welp. Guess I've got a year.

Show threadCode of Amor 💘Jan 15, 2025
@drwho @clickhere @alice @protonprivacy I don't see the core values of ProtonMail altering so drastically within a year, but I feel the world will be yet again a different place then. I think your mail will be safe enough until then. Set a reminder though.
Show threadThe DoctorJan 15, 2025

@codeofamor @clickhere @alice @protonprivacy I already have one set.

To be honest, a couple of hundred bucks a year is a lot for me. So that factors in as well, but that piper is already paid so I've got some time.

Show threadCode of Amor 💘Jan 15, 2025
@drwho @clickhere @alice @protonprivacy That's a lot for me also! Ouch! I do things as much as I can on the skint. Money is not one of my more plentiful resources in this chapter of life.
Show threadThe DoctorJan 15, 2025
@codeofamor @clickhere @alice @protonprivacy It came in handy for un-fucking my credit score, I have to admit.
Show threadChristiano AndersonJan 16, 2025
@codeofamor @clickhere @drwho @alice It's a great list, and Posteo is amazing, but they don't support using your own domain, IMHO this is the only downside. I'm using Mailbox, they support domain, the service is great.
Show threadCode of Amor 💘Jan 16, 2025
@canderson @clickhere @drwho @alice Thanks for weighing in - that's good to know.
Show threadChristiano AndersonJan 16, 2025
@codeofamor @clickhere @drwho @alice However, Posteo has a valid reason for not supporting custom domains. The issue lies with some domain registrars, which can compromise user data through WHOIS queries, posing a risk to users' privacy. IMHO this is not entirely accurate, since numerous registrars offer privacy features.
Show threadCode of Amor 💘Jan 16, 2025
@canderson @clickhere @drwho @alice Indeed. I never use those that do not have this feature.
Show threadCode of Amor 💘Feb 13, 2025
@clickhere @drwho @alice @protonprivacy
@sharpedo2027 here it is 
Show threadJeff the SharpedoFeb 13, 2025
@codeofamor @clickhere @drwho @alice @protonprivacy thanks!